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From: Jiaxin Yu <jiaxin.yu@mediatek.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nícolas F. R. A. Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, tzungbi@google.com,
	angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com, aaronyu@google.com,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, trevor.wu@mediatek.com,
	linmq006@gmail.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com,
	"Tzung-Bi Shih" <tzungbi@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [v7 2/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S3 DAI link of speaker
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 23:48:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <734fbf254c64668856e987aafe9d7dfd3ec86941.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YkRoC30JLDMeVi1B@sirena.org.uk>

On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 15:24 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:06:24PM +0800, Jiaxin Yu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 13:30 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > Making a previously optional property required means that systems
> > > that
> > > previously worked may stop working unless they update their DT,
> > > DTs
> > > may
> > > be distributed separately to the kernel and perhaps even baked
> > > into
> > > firmware or similar.
> > Thank you for your detailed answer. I should keep the driver's
> > behavior
> > consistent with the description of dt-bindings. The "mediatek,hdmi-
> > codec" needs to be set as the required property. Is my
> > understanding
> > right?
> 
> The binding document and code should match so if one is changed the
> other needs to be changed too.
> 
> In theory we should never change a previously optional property to
> required which would mean that the code should be updated to reflect
> the
> binding document, however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a
> stable intereface by anything for a given property or device type so
> we
> can get away with changing things.

"however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a stable intereface by
anything for a given property or device type so we can get away with
changing things."

Sorry, I don't understand the real idea of this description. Does it
mean that dt-bindings in this series don't need to be updated, but the
driver?


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jiaxin Yu <jiaxin.yu@mediatek.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linmq006@gmail.com,
	"Nícolas F. R. A. Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com,
	tzungbi@google.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, trevor.wu@mediatek.com,
	"Tzung-Bi Shih" <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, aaronyu@google.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [v7 2/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S3 DAI link of speaker
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 23:48:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <734fbf254c64668856e987aafe9d7dfd3ec86941.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YkRoC30JLDMeVi1B@sirena.org.uk>

On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 15:24 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:06:24PM +0800, Jiaxin Yu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 13:30 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > Making a previously optional property required means that systems
> > > that
> > > previously worked may stop working unless they update their DT,
> > > DTs
> > > may
> > > be distributed separately to the kernel and perhaps even baked
> > > into
> > > firmware or similar.
> > Thank you for your detailed answer. I should keep the driver's
> > behavior
> > consistent with the description of dt-bindings. The "mediatek,hdmi-
> > codec" needs to be set as the required property. Is my
> > understanding
> > right?
> 
> The binding document and code should match so if one is changed the
> other needs to be changed too.
> 
> In theory we should never change a previously optional property to
> required which would mean that the code should be updated to reflect
> the
> binding document, however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a
> stable intereface by anything for a given property or device type so
> we
> can get away with changing things.

"however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a stable intereface by
anything for a given property or device type so we can get away with
changing things."

Sorry, I don't understand the real idea of this description. Does it
mean that dt-bindings in this series don't need to be updated, but the
driver?


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jiaxin Yu <jiaxin.yu@mediatek.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nícolas F. R. A. Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, tzungbi@google.com,
	angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com, aaronyu@google.com,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, trevor.wu@mediatek.com,
	linmq006@gmail.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com,
	"Tzung-Bi Shih" <tzungbi@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [v7 2/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S3 DAI link of speaker
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 23:48:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <734fbf254c64668856e987aafe9d7dfd3ec86941.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YkRoC30JLDMeVi1B@sirena.org.uk>

On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 15:24 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:06:24PM +0800, Jiaxin Yu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 13:30 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > Making a previously optional property required means that systems
> > > that
> > > previously worked may stop working unless they update their DT,
> > > DTs
> > > may
> > > be distributed separately to the kernel and perhaps even baked
> > > into
> > > firmware or similar.
> > Thank you for your detailed answer. I should keep the driver's
> > behavior
> > consistent with the description of dt-bindings. The "mediatek,hdmi-
> > codec" needs to be set as the required property. Is my
> > understanding
> > right?
> 
> The binding document and code should match so if one is changed the
> other needs to be changed too.
> 
> In theory we should never change a previously optional property to
> required which would mean that the code should be updated to reflect
> the
> binding document, however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a
> stable intereface by anything for a given property or device type so
> we
> can get away with changing things.

"however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a stable intereface by
anything for a given property or device type so we can get away with
changing things."

Sorry, I don't understand the real idea of this description. Does it
mean that dt-bindings in this series don't need to be updated, but the
driver?
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jiaxin Yu <jiaxin.yu@mediatek.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nícolas F. R. A. Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, tzungbi@google.com,
	angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com, aaronyu@google.com,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, trevor.wu@mediatek.com,
	linmq006@gmail.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com,
	"Tzung-Bi Shih" <tzungbi@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [v7 2/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S3 DAI link of speaker
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 23:48:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <734fbf254c64668856e987aafe9d7dfd3ec86941.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YkRoC30JLDMeVi1B@sirena.org.uk>

On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 15:24 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:06:24PM +0800, Jiaxin Yu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 13:30 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > Making a previously optional property required means that systems
> > > that
> > > previously worked may stop working unless they update their DT,
> > > DTs
> > > may
> > > be distributed separately to the kernel and perhaps even baked
> > > into
> > > firmware or similar.
> > Thank you for your detailed answer. I should keep the driver's
> > behavior
> > consistent with the description of dt-bindings. The "mediatek,hdmi-
> > codec" needs to be set as the required property. Is my
> > understanding
> > right?
> 
> The binding document and code should match so if one is changed the
> other needs to be changed too.
> 
> In theory we should never change a previously optional property to
> required which would mean that the code should be updated to reflect
> the
> binding document, however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a
> stable intereface by anything for a given property or device type so
> we
> can get away with changing things.

"however sometimes the DT isn't actually used as a stable intereface by
anything for a given property or device type so we can get away with
changing things."

Sorry, I don't understand the real idea of this description. Does it
mean that dt-bindings in this series don't need to be updated, but the
driver?
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linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24  6:45 [v7 0/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: support rt1015p_rt5682s Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` [v7 1/4] ASoC: dt-bindings: mt8192-mt6359: add new compatible and new properties Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-29 23:13   ` Rob Herring
2022-03-29 23:13     ` Rob Herring
2022-03-29 23:13     ` Rob Herring
2022-03-29 23:13     ` Rob Herring
2022-03-24  6:45 ` [v7 2/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S3 DAI link of speaker Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-29 22:30   ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-29 22:30     ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-29 22:30     ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-29 22:30     ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30  2:33     ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30  2:33       ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30  2:33       ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30  2:33       ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 12:30       ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 12:30         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 12:30         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 12:30         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 14:06         ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 14:06           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 14:06           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 14:06           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 14:24           ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 14:24             ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 14:24             ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 14:24             ` Mark Brown
2022-03-30 15:48             ` Jiaxin Yu [this message]
2022-03-30 15:48               ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 15:48               ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 15:48               ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 16:14               ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 16:14                 ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 16:14                 ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 16:14                 ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 15:20       ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 15:20         ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 15:20         ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 15:20         ` Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
2022-03-30 16:20         ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 16:20           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 16:20           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-30 16:20           ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` [v7 3/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: refactor for I2S8/I2S9 DAI links of headset Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45 ` [v7 4/4] ASoC: mediatek: mt8192: support rt1015p_rt5682s Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu
2022-03-24  6:45   ` Jiaxin Yu

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