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From: Kaiwan N Billimoria <kaiwan@kaiwantech.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sh: Stop printing the virtual memory layout
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 12:29:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDLWs-b0NjDx4A=wdd6aJu84Wrc2wk6QZAf6EYGbqWyy-4ZFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f672417e-1323-4ef2-58a1-1158c482d569@physik.fu-berlin.de>

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:48 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> On 3/5/20 4:10 PM, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > For security, don't display the kernel's virtual memory layout.
> >
> > Kees Cook points out:
> > "These have been entirely removed on other architectures, so let's
> > just do the same for ia32 and remove it unconditionally."
> >
> > 071929dbdd86 ("arm64: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 1c31d4e96b8c ("ARM: 8820/1: mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 31833332f798 ("m68k/mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > fd8d0ca25631 ("parisc: Hide virtual kernel memory layout")
> > adb1fe9ae2ee ("mm/page_alloc: Remove kernel address exposure in free_reserved_area()")
> Aww, why wasn't this made configurable? I found these memory map printouts
> very useful for development.

Same here! IMO, the kernel segment layout is useful for devs/debug purposes.
Perhaps:
a) all these printk's could be gathered into one function and invoked
only when DEBUG (or equivalent) is defined?
b) else, the s/pr_info/pr_devel approach with %pK should be good?
-Kaiwan.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kaiwan N Billimoria <kaiwan@kaiwantech.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sh: Stop printing the virtual memory layout
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 17:47:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDLWs-b0NjDx4A=wdd6aJu84Wrc2wk6QZAf6EYGbqWyy-4ZFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f672417e-1323-4ef2-58a1-1158c482d569@physik.fu-berlin.de>

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:48 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> On 3/5/20 4:10 PM, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > For security, don't display the kernel's virtual memory layout.
> >
> > Kees Cook points out:
> > "These have been entirely removed on other architectures, so let's
> > just do the same for ia32 and remove it unconditionally."
> >
> > 071929dbdd86 ("arm64: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 1c31d4e96b8c ("ARM: 8820/1: mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 31833332f798 ("m68k/mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > fd8d0ca25631 ("parisc: Hide virtual kernel memory layout")
> > adb1fe9ae2ee ("mm/page_alloc: Remove kernel address exposure in free_reserved_area()")
> Aww, why wasn't this made configurable? I found these memory map printouts
> very useful for development.

Same here! IMO, the kernel segment layout is useful for devs/debug purposes.
Perhaps:
a) all these printk's could be gathered into one function and invoked
only when DEBUG (or equivalent) is defined?
b) else, the s/pr_info/pr_devel approach with %pK should be good?
-Kaiwan.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kaiwan N Billimoria <kaiwan@kaiwantech.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	 "Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	 Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	 Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sh: Stop printing the virtual memory layout
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 17:47:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDLWs-b0NjDx4A=wdd6aJu84Wrc2wk6QZAf6EYGbqWyy-4ZFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f672417e-1323-4ef2-58a1-1158c482d569@physik.fu-berlin.de>

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:48 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> On 3/5/20 4:10 PM, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > For security, don't display the kernel's virtual memory layout.
> >
> > Kees Cook points out:
> > "These have been entirely removed on other architectures, so let's
> > just do the same for ia32 and remove it unconditionally."
> >
> > 071929dbdd86 ("arm64: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 1c31d4e96b8c ("ARM: 8820/1: mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > 31833332f798 ("m68k/mm: Stop printing the virtual memory layout")
> > fd8d0ca25631 ("parisc: Hide virtual kernel memory layout")
> > adb1fe9ae2ee ("mm/page_alloc: Remove kernel address exposure in free_reserved_area()")
> Aww, why wasn't this made configurable? I found these memory map printouts
> very useful for development.

Same here! IMO, the kernel segment layout is useful for devs/debug purposes.
Perhaps:
a) all these printk's could be gathered into one function and invoked
only when DEBUG (or equivalent) is defined?
b) else, the s/pr_info/pr_devel approach with %pK should be good?
-Kaiwan.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-08 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26 21:50 [PATCH] x86/mm/init_32: Don't print out kernel memory layout if KASLR Arvind Sankar
2020-02-29 23:51 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-01  0:11   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-02 18:38     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 15:05       ` [PATCH] microblaze: Stop printing the virtual memory layout Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 20:50         ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-09 10:09         ` Michal Simek
2020-03-05 15:06       ` [PATCH] nds32/mm: " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 20:50         ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-05 15:08       ` [PATCH] powerpc/32: " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:08         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 20:50         ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-05 20:50           ` Tycho Andersen
2022-03-09 19:35         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-03-05 15:10       ` [PATCH] sh: " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:10         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:18         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:18           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:38           ` Joe Perches
2020-03-05 15:38             ` Joe Perches
2020-03-05 15:38             ` Joe Perches
2020-03-05 15:41             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:41               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:46               ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:46                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:49                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:49                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 15:56                   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 15:56                     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 20:51                     ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-05 20:51                       ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-05 20:56                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 20:56                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-05 21:17                       ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 21:17                         ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 17:34                 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 17:34                   ` Kees Cook
2020-03-06  8:04           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-03-06  8:04             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-03-06  8:04             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-03-08 12:17           ` Kaiwan N Billimoria [this message]
2020-03-08 12:29             ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2020-03-08 12:17             ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2020-03-05 15:11       ` [PATCH] xtensa/mm: " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 20:51         ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-06  7:54         ` Max Filippov
2020-03-06  7:54           ` Max Filippov
2020-03-01  0:22   ` [PATCH v2] x86/mm/init_32: " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-02 15:29     ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-02 18:39     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 15:01       ` [PATCH v3] " Arvind Sankar
2020-03-05 17:28         ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 20:49         ` Tycho Andersen
2020-03-05 23:00         ` [tip: x86/mm] x86/mm/init/32: " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar

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