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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Raju P . L . S . S . S . N" <rplsssn@codeaurora.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Niklas Cassel <niklas.cassel@linaro.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Lina Iyer <ilina@codeaurora.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Souvik Chakravarty <souvik.chakravarty@arm.com>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Support CPU hotplug for the hierarchical model
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:21:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFqooMww0B6vGL56BnG-L=13C3oWeDFx4v1cO9=W9QPwVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190607153114.GI15577@e107155-lin>

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 17:31, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 09:22:57PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > When the hierarchical CPU topology is used and when a CPU has been put
> > offline (hotplug), that same CPU prevents its PM domain and thus also
> > potential master PM domains, from being powered off. This is because genpd
> > observes the CPU's attached device as being active from a runtime PM point
> > of view.
> >
> > To deal with this, let's decrease the runtime PM usage count by calling
> > pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend() of the attached struct device when putting
> > the CPU offline. Consequentially, we must then increase the runtime PM
> > usage count, while putting the CPU online again.
> >
>
> Why is this firmware/driver specific ? Why can't this be dealt in core
> pm-domain ? I am concerned that if any other architectures or firmware
> method decides to use this feature, this need to be duplicated there.

What is the core pm-domain? Do you refer to the generic PM domain (genpd), no?

In such case, this is not the job of genpd, but rather the opposite
(to *monitor* the reference count).

>
> The way I see this is pure reference counting and is hardware/firmware/
> driver agnostic and can be made generic.

As stated in the another reply, I would rather start with having more
things driver specific rather than generic. Later on we can always
consider to move/split things, when there are more users.

In this particular case, the runtime PM reference counting is done on
the struct device*, that genpd returned via
dev_pm_domain_attach_by_name(). And because
dev_pm_domain_attach_by_name() is called from PSCI code, I decided to
keep this struct device* internal to PSCI.

Kind regards
Uffe

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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Lina Iyer <ilina@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Niklas Cassel <niklas.cassel@linaro.org>,
	Souvik Chakravarty <souvik.chakravarty@arm.com>,
	"Raju P . L . S . S . S . N" <rplsssn@codeaurora.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Support CPU hotplug for the hierarchical model
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:21:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFqooMww0B6vGL56BnG-L=13C3oWeDFx4v1cO9=W9QPwVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190607153114.GI15577@e107155-lin>

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 17:31, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 09:22:57PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > When the hierarchical CPU topology is used and when a CPU has been put
> > offline (hotplug), that same CPU prevents its PM domain and thus also
> > potential master PM domains, from being powered off. This is because genpd
> > observes the CPU's attached device as being active from a runtime PM point
> > of view.
> >
> > To deal with this, let's decrease the runtime PM usage count by calling
> > pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend() of the attached struct device when putting
> > the CPU offline. Consequentially, we must then increase the runtime PM
> > usage count, while putting the CPU online again.
> >
>
> Why is this firmware/driver specific ? Why can't this be dealt in core
> pm-domain ? I am concerned that if any other architectures or firmware
> method decides to use this feature, this need to be duplicated there.

What is the core pm-domain? Do you refer to the generic PM domain (genpd), no?

In such case, this is not the job of genpd, but rather the opposite
(to *monitor* the reference count).

>
> The way I see this is pure reference counting and is hardware/firmware/
> driver agnostic and can be made generic.

As stated in the another reply, I would rather start with having more
things driver specific rather than generic. Later on we can always
consider to move/split things, when there are more users.

In this particular case, the runtime PM reference counting is done on
the struct device*, that genpd returned via
dev_pm_domain_attach_by_name(). And because
dev_pm_domain_attach_by_name() is called from PSCI code, I decided to
keep this struct device* internal to PSCI.

Kind regards
Uffe

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Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-13 19:22 [PATCH 00/18] ARM/ARM64: Support hierarchical CPU arrangement for PSCI Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 01/18] dt: psci: Update DT bindings to support hierarchical PSCI states Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-19 11:29   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-19 11:29     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 02/18] of: base: Add of_get_cpu_state_node() to get idle states for a CPU node Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 03/18] cpuidle: dt: Support hierarchical CPU idle states Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 04/18] ARM/ARM64: cpuidle: Let back-end init ops take the driver as input Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:00   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:00     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:20     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 10:20       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 05/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Simplify state node parsing Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:01   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:01     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 06/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Support hierarchical CPU idle states Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:03   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:03     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 07/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Prepare to use OS initiated suspend mode Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:17   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:17     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:21     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 10:21       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 10:42       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:42         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 14:53   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 14:53     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 08/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Prepare to support PM domains Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:21   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:21     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 09/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Add support for PM domains using genpd Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:27   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:27     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:21     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 10:21       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:59         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 15:05   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 15:05     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-18 11:04     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 11:04       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 13:19       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-18 13:19         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-18 17:57         ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-18 17:57           ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-19  9:45           ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-19  9:45             ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 10/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Add hierarchical domain idle states converter Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-09 15:31   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-09 15:31     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-16  8:45     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-16  8:45       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-16 14:51       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-16 14:51         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-18 11:43         ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 11:43           ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 13:36           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-18 13:36             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 11/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Introduce psci_dt_topology_init() Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 12/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Add a helper to attach a CPU to its PM domain Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 13/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Attach the CPU's device " Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 14/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Manage runtime PM in the idle path for CPUs Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-16 15:53   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-16 15:53     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-18 10:35     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 10:35       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 13:30       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-18 13:30         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-18 16:54         ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 16:54           ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 17:41           ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-18 17:41             ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-18 21:49             ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 21:49               ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-19 10:02               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-07-19 10:02                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 15/18] drivers: firmware: psci: Support CPU hotplug for the hierarchical model Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:31   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:31     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:21     ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2019-06-10 10:21       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 11:02       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 11:02         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: kernel: Respect the hierarchical CPU topology in DT for PSCI Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64: dts: Convert to the hierarchical CPU topology layout for MSM8916 Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:22   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-16 14:47   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 14:47     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 20:36     ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-16 20:36       ` Lina Iyer
2019-07-17 17:18       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-17 17:18         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-13 19:23 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64: dts: hikey: Convert to the hierarchical CPU topology layout Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:23   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-13 19:23   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-16 14:47   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-16 14:47     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-18 10:48     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 10:48       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-18 13:11       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-18 13:11         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-14  8:08 ` [PATCH 00/18] ARM/ARM64: Support hierarchical CPU arrangement for PSCI Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-05-14  8:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-05-14  8:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-05-14  8:58   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-14  8:58     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-05-14  8:58     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 15:42     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 15:42       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-07 19:34       ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-07 19:34         ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-10 10:32         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 10:32           ` Sudeep Holla
2019-06-10 15:54           ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 15:54             ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 17:16             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-06-10 17:16               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-06-10 18:57               ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-10 18:57                 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-18 11:56                 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-18 11:56                   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 11:19 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-07 11:19   ` Ulf Hansson

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