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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	<linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"SUZUKI, Kazuhiro" <kaz@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/2] Fix hangup after creating checkpoint on Xen.
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:46:37 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1102081143470.2100-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1297164178.9388.65.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Ian Campbell wrote:

> The problem is that currently we have:
> 
>         dpm_suspend_start(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>         
>                 dpm_suspend_noirq(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>                         
>                         sysdev_suspend(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>                         /* suspend hypercall */
>                         sysdev_resume();
>                 
>                 dpm_resume_noirq(PMSG_RESUME);
>         
>         dpm_resume_end(PMSG_RESUME);
> 
> However the suspend hypercall can return a value indicating that the
> suspend didn't actually happen (e.g. was cancelled). This is used e.g.
> when checkpointing guests, because in that case you want the original
> guest to continue. When the suspend didn't happen the drivers need to
> recover differently from if it did.

That is odd, and it is quite different from the intended design of the 
PM core.  Drivers are supposed to put their devices into a known 
suspended state; then afterwards they put the devices back into an 
operational state.  What happens while the devices are in the suspended 
state isn't supposed to matter -- the system transition can fail, but 
devices get treated exactly the same way as if it succeeded.

Why do your drivers need to recover differently based on the success of 
the hypercall?

Alan Stern


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, "SUZUKI,
	Kazuhiro" <kaz@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/2] Fix hangup after creating checkpoint on Xen.
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:46:37 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1102081143470.2100-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1297164178.9388.65.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Ian Campbell wrote:

> The problem is that currently we have:
> 
>         dpm_suspend_start(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>         
>                 dpm_suspend_noirq(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>                         
>                         sysdev_suspend(PMSG_SUSPEND);
>                         /* suspend hypercall */
>                         sysdev_resume();
>                 
>                 dpm_resume_noirq(PMSG_RESUME);
>         
>         dpm_resume_end(PMSG_RESUME);
> 
> However the suspend hypercall can return a value indicating that the
> suspend didn't actually happen (e.g. was cancelled). This is used e.g.
> when checkpointing guests, because in that case you want the original
> guest to continue. When the suspend didn't happen the drivers need to
> recover differently from if it did.

That is odd, and it is quite different from the intended design of the 
PM core.  Drivers are supposed to put their devices into a known 
suspended state; then afterwards they put the devices back into an 
operational state.  What happens while the devices are in the suspended 
state isn't supposed to matter -- the system transition can fail, but 
devices get treated exactly the same way as if it succeeded.

Why do your drivers need to recover differently based on the success of 
the hypercall?

Alan Stern

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07  9:07 [PATCH 0/2] Fix hangup after creating checkpoint on Xen SUZUKI, Kazuhiro
2011-02-07  9:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] " SUZUKI, Kazuhiro
2011-02-07  9:08 ` SUZUKI, Kazuhiro
2011-02-07  9:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] " SUZUKI, Kazuhiro
2011-02-07  9:08 ` SUZUKI, Kazuhiro
2011-02-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 11:22   ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-08 11:22     ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-08 16:46     ` Alan Stern
2011-02-08 16:46     ` Alan Stern [this message]
2011-02-08 16:46       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2011-02-08 17:35       ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-08 17:35         ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-09 23:16         ` Brendan Cully
2011-02-09 23:16           ` Brendan Cully
2011-02-09 23:42           ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 23:42             ` Alan Stern
2011-02-10 11:40             ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 11:40             ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 11:40               ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 16:00               ` [Xen-devel] " Alan Stern
2011-02-10 16:00               ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2011-02-10 16:00                 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-10 16:26                 ` [Xen-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 16:26                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 16:26                 ` [Xen-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 16:34                 ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 16:34                 ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 16:34                   ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 17:01                   ` [Xen-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 17:01                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-17  7:56                     ` [PATCH] update comments in pm.h describing Xen Guest save/restore/checkpoint use case Shriram Rajagopalan
2011-02-17  7:56                     ` Shriram Rajagopalan
2011-02-17 10:56                       ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-17 10:56                       ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 17:01                   ` [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Fix hangup after creating checkpoint on Xen Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 18:56                   ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2011-02-10 18:56                     ` Alan Stern
2011-02-10 18:56                   ` [Xen-devel] " Alan Stern
2011-02-09 23:42           ` Alan Stern
2011-02-10 11:31           ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 11:31             ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 12:40             ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 19:31               ` Brendan Cully
2011-02-11  9:14                 ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-11  9:37                   ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2011-02-11  9:51                 ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-11 18:13                   ` Shriram Rajagopalan
2011-02-14  9:15                     ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-14  9:27                       ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-10 17:53             ` [Xen-devel] " Brendan Cully
2011-02-10 17:53             ` [Xen-devel] Re: [linux-pm] " Brendan Cully
2011-02-10 17:53               ` Brendan Cully
2011-02-10 11:31           ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2011-02-09 23:16         ` Brendan Cully
2011-02-08 17:35       ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-08 11:22   ` Ian Campbell
2011-02-07  9:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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