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From: Darius Rad <darius@bluespec.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vineetg@rivosinc.com>,
	stillson@rivosinc.com, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	anup@brainfault.org, atishp@atishpatra.org, guoren@kernel.org,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	greentime.hu@sifive.com, vincent.chen@sifive.com,
	andy.chiu@sifive.com, arnd@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	bjorn@kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	christoph.muellner@vrull.eu, Aaron Durbin <adurbin@rivosinc.com>,
	linux@rivosinc.com
Subject: Re: RISCV Vector unit disabled by default for new task (was Re: [PATCH v12 17/17] riscv: prctl to enable vector commands)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 07:21:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5MoPdYimQtqQvkM@bruce.bluespec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cz0nbce.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:02:57AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Andrew Waterman:
> 
> > This suggests that ld.so, early-stage libc, or possibly both will need
> > to make this prctl() call, perhaps by parsing the ELF headers of the
> > binary and each library to determine if the V extension is used.
> 
> If the string functions use the V extension, it will be enabled
> unconditionally.  So I don't see why it's okay for libc to trigger this
> alleged UAPI change, when the kernel can't do it by default.
> 

Because the call to enable can fail and userspace needs to deal with that.

// darius

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From: Darius Rad <darius@bluespec.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vineetg@rivosinc.com>,
	stillson@rivosinc.com, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	anup@brainfault.org, atishp@atishpatra.org, guoren@kernel.org,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	greentime.hu@sifive.com, vincent.chen@sifive.com,
	andy.chiu@sifive.com, arnd@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	bjorn@kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	christoph.muellner@vrull.eu, Aaron Durbin <adurbin@rivosinc.com>,
	linux@rivosinc.com
Subject: Re: RISCV Vector unit disabled by default for new task (was Re: [PATCH v12 17/17] riscv: prctl to enable vector commands)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 07:21:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5MoPdYimQtqQvkM@bruce.bluespec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cz0nbce.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:02:57AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Andrew Waterman:
> 
> > This suggests that ld.so, early-stage libc, or possibly both will need
> > to make this prctl() call, perhaps by parsing the ELF headers of the
> > binary and each library to determine if the V extension is used.
> 
> If the string functions use the V extension, it will be enabled
> unconditionally.  So I don't see why it's okay for libc to trigger this
> alleged UAPI change, when the kernel can't do it by default.
> 

Because the call to enable can fail and userspace needs to deal with that.

// darius

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-09 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21 21:43 [PATCH v12 01/17] riscv: Rename __switch_to_aux -> fpu Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 02/17] riscv: Extending cpufeature.c to detect V-extension Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
     [not found]   ` <4b6e20fb-d013-0a09-0b74-b6c46e045af3@rivosinc.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAJF2gTSPoKu_owEb6+MLhAgK5nz2FTRDkTn4qfXF4KyA-XTwvw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CAJF2gTT_z96V3kjPtr9hpTq8XRn0x=91wFNPYFFdetAA2u-01Q@mail.gmail.com>
2022-11-04  9:13         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-11-04 18:04           ` Vineet Gupta
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 03/17] riscv: Add new csr defines related to vector extension Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2023-01-23 11:24   ` Heiko Stübner
2023-01-23 11:24     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 04/17] riscv: Add vector feature to compile Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-07 17:21   ` Björn Töpel
2022-11-07 17:21     ` Björn Töpel
2022-11-08  0:04     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-08  0:04       ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-08  7:56       ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-08  7:56         ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-08 17:17         ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-08 17:17           ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-08 17:22           ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-08 17:22             ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-13 16:16     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-11-13 16:16       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-11-15 17:38       ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-15 17:38         ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-15 22:17         ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-15 22:17           ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-15  0:40   ` Atish Patra
2022-12-15  0:40     ` Atish Patra
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 05/17] riscv: Add has_vector/riscv_vsize to save vector features Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-22  4:23   ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-22  4:23     ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-23 16:27     ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-23 16:27       ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-24 18:01       ` Conor Dooley
2022-09-24 18:01         ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-04  4:10   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  4:10     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  4:33   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  4:33     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 06/17] riscv: Reset vector register Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-04  5:01   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  5:01     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  8:45     ` Guo Ren
2022-11-04  8:45       ` Guo Ren
2023-01-20 12:20   ` Heiko Stübner
2023-01-20 12:20     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 07/17] riscv: Add vector struct and assembler definitions Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-04  5:13   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04  5:13     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 08/17] riscv: Add task switch support for vector Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-04 22:08   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-04 22:08     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 09/17] riscv: Add ptrace vector support Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-08  1:38   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-08  1:38     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-14 20:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-14 20:01       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 10/17] riscv: Add sigcontext save/restore for vector Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-11-09  1:27   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-11-09  1:27     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 11/17] riscv: signal: Report signal frame size to userspace via auxv Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 12/17] riscv: Add support for kernel mode vector Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 13/17] riscv: Add vector extension XOR implementation Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 14/17] riscv: Fix a kernel panic issue if $s2 is set to a specific value before entering Linux Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 15/17] riscv: Add V extension to KVM ISA allow list Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 16/17] riscv: KVM: Add vector lazy save/restore support Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43 ` [PATCH v12 17/17] riscv: prctl to enable vector commands Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-09-21 21:43   ` Chris Stillson
2022-12-09  5:16   ` RISCV Vector unit disabled by default for new task (was Re: [PATCH v12 17/17] riscv: prctl to enable vector commands) Vineet Gupta
2022-12-09  5:16     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-09  6:27     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-12-09  6:27       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-12-09  7:42       ` Andrew Waterman
2022-12-09  7:42         ` Andrew Waterman
2022-12-09 10:02         ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 10:02           ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 12:21           ` Darius Rad [this message]
2022-12-09 12:21             ` Darius Rad
2022-12-09 12:32             ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 12:32               ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 12:42               ` Darius Rad
2022-12-09 12:42                 ` Darius Rad
2022-12-09 13:04                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 13:04                   ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-09 17:21                   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-12-09 17:21                     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-12-09 19:42                     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-09 19:42                       ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-09 19:58                       ` Andrew Waterman
2022-12-09 19:58                         ` Andrew Waterman
2022-12-13 16:43                       ` Darius Rad
2022-12-13 16:43                         ` Darius Rad
2022-12-14 20:07                         ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-14 20:07                           ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-14 23:13                           ` Samuel Holland
2022-12-14 23:13                             ` Samuel Holland
2022-12-15  2:09                           ` Darius Rad
2022-12-15  2:09                             ` Darius Rad
2022-12-15 11:48                             ` Björn Töpel
2022-12-15 11:48                               ` Björn Töpel
2022-12-15 12:28                               ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-15 12:28                                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-15 15:33                                 ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-15 15:33                                   ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-15 18:57                                   ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-15 18:57                                     ` Vineet Gupta
2022-12-15 18:59                                     ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-15 18:59                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-15 19:01                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-15 19:01                                         ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-15 19:56                                     ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-15 19:56                                       ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-09 13:58       ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-12-09 13:58         ` Icenowy Zheng
2023-01-23 11:20 ` [PATCH v12 01/17] riscv: Rename __switch_to_aux -> fpu Heiko Stübner
2023-01-23 11:20   ` Heiko Stübner

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