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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Jeremy Linton" <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Guo Hui" <guohui@uniontech.com>,
	Manoj.Iyer@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	"James Yang" <james.yang@arm.com>,
	"Shiyou Huang" <shiyou.huang@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] arm64: syscall: Direct PRNG kstack randomization
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 21:29:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acfc522a-5162-4b33-9d6c-1e25d0c44a71@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db7dfa2d-c7c6-4b10-981a-a7ecc87c8541@arm.com>

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, at 17:49, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> On 3/7/24 05:10, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the logic. Do you mean that accessing
>> CNTVCT itself is slow, or that reseeding based on CNTVCT is slow
>> because of the overhead of reseeding?
>
> Slow, as in, its running at a much lower frequency than a cycle counter.

Ok, I see. Would it be possible to use PMEVCNTR0 instead?

      Arnd

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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Jeremy Linton" <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Guo Hui" <guohui@uniontech.com>,
	Manoj.Iyer@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	"James Yang" <james.yang@arm.com>,
	"Shiyou Huang" <shiyou.huang@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] arm64: syscall: Direct PRNG kstack randomization
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 21:29:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acfc522a-5162-4b33-9d6c-1e25d0c44a71@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db7dfa2d-c7c6-4b10-981a-a7ecc87c8541@arm.com>

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, at 17:49, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> On 3/7/24 05:10, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the logic. Do you mean that accessing
>> CNTVCT itself is slow, or that reseeding based on CNTVCT is slow
>> because of the overhead of reseeding?
>
> Slow, as in, its running at a much lower frequency than a cycle counter.

Ok, I see. Would it be possible to use PMEVCNTR0 instead?

      Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05 22:18 [PATCH 0/1] Bring kstack randomized perf closer to unrandomized Jeremy Linton
2024-03-05 22:18 ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-05 22:18 ` [PATCH 1/1] arm64: syscall: Direct PRNG kstack randomization Jeremy Linton
2024-03-05 22:18   ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-05 23:33   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05 23:33     ` Kees Cook
2024-03-06 20:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-06 20:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-06 21:54       ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-06 21:54         ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-07 11:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 11:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 19:10           ` Kees Cook
2024-03-07 19:10             ` Kees Cook
2024-03-07 21:56             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 21:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 19:15           ` Kees Cook
2024-03-07 19:15             ` Kees Cook
2024-03-07 22:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 22:02               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-08 16:49           ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-08 16:49             ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-08 20:29             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2024-03-08 20:29               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-22 23:40               ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-22 23:40                 ` Jeremy Linton
2024-03-23 12:47                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-23 12:47                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-07 19:05   ` kernel test robot
2024-03-07 19:05     ` kernel test robot

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