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From: Kunihiko Hayashi <hayashi.kunihiko@socionext.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: soc@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: dts: uniphier: Add NX1 SoC and boards support
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:48:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afdb63d2-217b-1ed5-3398-3e610bce8ecb@socionext.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1e4a039-3b65-2f2b-2196-340cc754b1c1@linaro.org>

Hi Krzysztof,

On 2022/11/09 0:11, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 08/11/2022 15:30, Kunihiko Hayashi wrote:
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> On 2022/11/08 20:13, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2022 11:34, Kunihiko Hayashi wrote:
>>>> Initial version of devicetree sources for NX1 SoC and boards.
>>>>
>>>> NX1 SoC belongs to the UniPhier armv8 architecture platform, and is
>>>> designed for IoT and AI/ML application fields.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +		soc_glue: syscon@1f800000 {
>>>> +			compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-soc-glue",
>>>> +				     "simple-mfd", "syscon";
>>>> +			reg = <0x1f800000 0x2000>;
>>>> +
>>>> +			pinctrl: pinctrl {
>>>> +				compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-pinctrl";
>>>
>>> So instead of documenting the hardware precisily, you have one big bag
>>> for everything under simple-mfd. This is not how the SoC should be
>>> described in DTS.
>>
>> Sorry I don't understand. This is inherited from the previous
>> descriptions,
>> but is there some example to express DTS correctly about that?
> 
> I think yes, although it actually depends what is this hardware.
> Generally speaking, do not use simple-mfd and syscon when these are not
> really simple devices. There are quite many in your DTS, which got my
> attention. Instead - have regular device with or without children.
> 
> There is no real need to have this a simple-mfd with one children
> without any resources (no address space, no clocks, no interrupts, nothing).
> 
> Why this syscon/mfd and pinctrl is not a regular, one device?

The mfd/syscon.yaml says:
   System controller node represents a register region containing a set
   of miscellaneous registers.

The "soc-glue" is exactly this, it contains various register functions
and might be referred to the drivers.

For example in this NX1 dts, ethernet node points to "soc-glue" node.

     eth: ethernet@15000000 {
         compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-ave4";
         ...
         socionext,syscon-phy-mode = <&soc_glue 0>;
     };

Since such register region is not often systematically designed,
it is tough to cut out as specific memory region for "pinctrl".

And more, the existing pinctrl driver uses of_get_parent() and
syscon_node_to_regmap(), so this change breaks compatibility.

>>>> +			};
>>>> +		};
>>>> +
>>>> +		soc-glue@1f900000 {
>>>> +			compatible = "simple-mfd";
>>>
>>> No, it is not allowed on its own. You need a specific compatible and
>>> bindings describing its children.
>>
>> I saw the definition of "simple-mfd" itself is only in mfd/mfd.txt.
>>
>> Currently there are only efuse devices as children, and this space means
>> nothing. I think it had better define the devices directly.
> 
> You need to start describe the hardware. efuse is an efuse, not MFD.
> pinctrl is pinctrl not MFD + pinctrl.

This region also has multiple functions, though, the efuse might be
cut out as specific region without "simple-mfd", unlike pinctrl.

Thank you,

---
Best Regards
Kunihiko Hayashi

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kunihiko Hayashi <hayashi.kunihiko@socionext.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: soc@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: dts: uniphier: Add NX1 SoC and boards support
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:48:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afdb63d2-217b-1ed5-3398-3e610bce8ecb@socionext.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1e4a039-3b65-2f2b-2196-340cc754b1c1@linaro.org>

Hi Krzysztof,

On 2022/11/09 0:11, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 08/11/2022 15:30, Kunihiko Hayashi wrote:
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> On 2022/11/08 20:13, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2022 11:34, Kunihiko Hayashi wrote:
>>>> Initial version of devicetree sources for NX1 SoC and boards.
>>>>
>>>> NX1 SoC belongs to the UniPhier armv8 architecture platform, and is
>>>> designed for IoT and AI/ML application fields.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +		soc_glue: syscon@1f800000 {
>>>> +			compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-soc-glue",
>>>> +				     "simple-mfd", "syscon";
>>>> +			reg = <0x1f800000 0x2000>;
>>>> +
>>>> +			pinctrl: pinctrl {
>>>> +				compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-pinctrl";
>>>
>>> So instead of documenting the hardware precisily, you have one big bag
>>> for everything under simple-mfd. This is not how the SoC should be
>>> described in DTS.
>>
>> Sorry I don't understand. This is inherited from the previous
>> descriptions,
>> but is there some example to express DTS correctly about that?
> 
> I think yes, although it actually depends what is this hardware.
> Generally speaking, do not use simple-mfd and syscon when these are not
> really simple devices. There are quite many in your DTS, which got my
> attention. Instead - have regular device with or without children.
> 
> There is no real need to have this a simple-mfd with one children
> without any resources (no address space, no clocks, no interrupts, nothing).
> 
> Why this syscon/mfd and pinctrl is not a regular, one device?

The mfd/syscon.yaml says:
   System controller node represents a register region containing a set
   of miscellaneous registers.

The "soc-glue" is exactly this, it contains various register functions
and might be referred to the drivers.

For example in this NX1 dts, ethernet node points to "soc-glue" node.

     eth: ethernet@15000000 {
         compatible = "socionext,uniphier-nx1-ave4";
         ...
         socionext,syscon-phy-mode = <&soc_glue 0>;
     };

Since such register region is not often systematically designed,
it is tough to cut out as specific memory region for "pinctrl".

And more, the existing pinctrl driver uses of_get_parent() and
syscon_node_to_regmap(), so this change breaks compatibility.

>>>> +			};
>>>> +		};
>>>> +
>>>> +		soc-glue@1f900000 {
>>>> +			compatible = "simple-mfd";
>>>
>>> No, it is not allowed on its own. You need a specific compatible and
>>> bindings describing its children.
>>
>> I saw the definition of "simple-mfd" itself is only in mfd/mfd.txt.
>>
>> Currently there are only efuse devices as children, and this space means
>> nothing. I think it had better define the devices directly.
> 
> You need to start describe the hardware. efuse is an efuse, not MFD.
> pinctrl is pinctrl not MFD + pinctrl.

This region also has multiple functions, though, the efuse might be
cut out as specific region without "simple-mfd", unlike pinctrl.

Thank you,

---
Best Regards
Kunihiko Hayashi

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 10:34 [PATCH v2 0/5] Add UniPhier boards support Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] dt-bindings: arm: uniphier: Add system controller bindings Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34   ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 11:09   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 11:09     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 14:30     ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 14:30       ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 15:08       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 15:08         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-11  8:49         ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-11  8:49           ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] dt-bindings: arm: uniphier: Add Pro5 boards Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34   ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] ARM: dts: uniphier: Add Pro5 board support Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34   ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] dt-bindings: arm: uniphier: Add NX1 boards Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34   ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: dts: uniphier: Add NX1 SoC and boards support Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-07 10:34   ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 11:13   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 11:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 14:30     ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 14:30       ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-08 15:11       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 15:11         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-11  8:48         ` Kunihiko Hayashi [this message]
2022-11-11  8:48           ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-11 14:40           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-11 14:40             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-11 16:42             ` Kunihiko Hayashi
2022-11-11 16:42               ` Kunihiko Hayashi

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