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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:34:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01886693-c73e-3696-860b-086417d695e1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E3C31D0E6@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 12/14/2016 12:59 AM, Li, Liang Z wrote:
>> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for
>> fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
>>
>> On 12/08/2016 08:45 PM, Li, Liang Z wrote:
>>> What's the conclusion of your discussion? It seems you want some
>>> statistic before deciding whether to  ripping the bitmap from the ABI,
>>> am I right?
>>
>> I think Andrea and David feel pretty strongly that we should remove the
>> bitmap, unless we have some data to support keeping it.  I don't feel as
>> strongly about it, but I think their critique of it is pretty valid.  I think the
>> consensus is that the bitmap needs to go.
>>
>> The only real question IMNHO is whether we should do a power-of-2 or a
>> length.  But, if we have 12 bits, then the argument for doing length is pretty
>> strong.  We don't need anywhere near 12 bits if doing power-of-2.
> 
> Just found the MAX_ORDER should be limited to 12 if use length instead of order,
> If the MAX_ORDER is configured to a value bigger than 12, it will make things more
> complex to handle this case. 
> 
> If use order, we need to break a large memory range whose length is not the power of 2 into several
> small ranges, it also make the code complex.

I can't imagine it makes the code that much more complex.  It adds a for
loop.  Right?

> It seems we leave too many bit  for the pfn, and the bits leave for length is not enough,
> How about keep 45 bits for the pfn and 19 bits for length, 45 bits for pfn can cover 57 bits
> physical address, that should be enough in the near feature. 
> 
> What's your opinion?

I still think 'order' makes a lot of sense.  But, as you say, 57 bits is
enough for x86 for a while.  Other architectures.... who knows?

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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mhocko@suse.com" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:34:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01886693-c73e-3696-860b-086417d695e1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E3C31D0E6@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 12/14/2016 12:59 AM, Li, Liang Z wrote:
>> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for
>> fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
>>
>> On 12/08/2016 08:45 PM, Li, Liang Z wrote:
>>> What's the conclusion of your discussion? It seems you want some
>>> statistic before deciding whether to  ripping the bitmap from the ABI,
>>> am I right?
>>
>> I think Andrea and David feel pretty strongly that we should remove the
>> bitmap, unless we have some data to support keeping it.  I don't feel as
>> strongly about it, but I think their critique of it is pretty valid.  I think the
>> consensus is that the bitmap needs to go.
>>
>> The only real question IMNHO is whether we should do a power-of-2 or a
>> length.  But, if we have 12 bits, then the argument for doing length is pretty
>> strong.  We don't need anywhere near 12 bits if doing power-of-2.
> 
> Just found the MAX_ORDER should be limited to 12 if use length instead of order,
> If the MAX_ORDER is configured to a value bigger than 12, it will make things more
> complex to handle this case. 
> 
> If use order, we need to break a large memory range whose length is not the power of 2 into several
> small ranges, it also make the code complex.

I can't imagine it makes the code that much more complex.  It adds a for
loop.  Right?

> It seems we leave too many bit  for the pfn, and the bits leave for length is not enough,
> How about keep 45 bits for the pfn and 19 bits for length, 45 bits for pfn can cover 57 bits
> physical address, that should be enough in the near feature. 
> 
> What's your opinion?

I still think 'order' makes a lot of sense.  But, as you say, 57 bits is
enough for x86 for a while.  Other architectures.... who knows?

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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30  8:43 [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 1/5] virtio-balloon: rework deflate to add page to a list Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 2/5] virtio-balloon: define new feature bit and head struct Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 3/5] virtio-balloon: speed up inflate/deflate process Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 4/5] virtio-balloon: define flags and head for host request vq Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 5/5] virtio-balloon: tell host vm's unused page info Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43   ` Liang Li
2016-11-30 19:15   ` Dave Hansen
2016-11-30 19:15   ` Dave Hansen
2016-11-30 19:15     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dave Hansen
2016-11-30 19:15     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-04 13:13     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-04 13:13     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-04 13:13       ` [Qemu-devel] " Li, Liang Z
2016-12-04 13:13       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-05 17:22       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-05 17:22         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dave Hansen
2016-12-05 17:22         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-05 17:22         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-06  4:47         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-06  4:47           ` [Qemu-devel] " Li, Liang Z
2016-12-06  4:47           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-06  4:47           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-06  8:40 ` [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration David Hildenbrand
2016-12-06  8:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2016-12-06  8:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-06  8:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 13:35   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 13:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 13:35     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 13:35     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 15:34     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:34       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:34       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  3:09       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  3:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  3:09         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  3:09         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  3:09       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 15:34     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 15:42       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 15:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 15:45       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:45         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:45         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 15:45         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 16:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 16:21           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 16:21           ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 16:21           ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 16:57           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 16:57           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 16:57             ` [Qemu-devel] " Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 16:57             ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:38               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:38               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:44               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:44               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:44                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:44                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:58                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:58                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:58                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:58                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 19:54               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 19:54                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 19:54                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 19:54                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 20:28                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 20:28                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 20:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 20:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-09  4:45                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  4:45                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  4:45                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  4:45                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  4:53                     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  4:53                       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  4:53                       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  4:53                       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  5:35                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  5:35                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  5:35                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  5:35                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09 16:42                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-09 16:42                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-09 16:42                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-09 16:42                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-14  8:20                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:20                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:20                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:20                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:59                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:59                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:59                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:59                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-15 15:34                         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-15 15:34                         ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-12-15 15:34                           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-15 15:34                           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-15 15:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-15 15:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-15 15:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-15 15:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-16  1:12                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:12                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:12                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:12                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16 15:40                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16 15:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16 15:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-17 11:56                                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 11:56                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 11:56                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 11:56                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16 15:40                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16  0:48                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  0:48                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  0:48                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  0:48                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:09                             ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:09                             ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:09                               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:09                               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:38                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:38                                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:38                                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:38                                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:40                                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:40                                   ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:40                                   ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:40                                   ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:43                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:43                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:43                                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:43                                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16 16:01                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16 16:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16 16:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-16 16:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-17 12:39                                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 12:39                                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 12:39                                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-17 12:39                                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 15:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 13:35   ` Li, Liang Z

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