From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:07:17 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <063f5efc-afb2-471f-eb4b-79bf90db22dd@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1537800341.9745.20.camel@amazon.de>
On 09/24/2018 08:45 AM, Stecklina, Julian wrote:
> I didn't test the version with TLB flushes, because it's clear that the
> overhead is so bad that no one wants to use this.
I don't think we can ignore the vulnerability caused by not flushing
stale TLB entries. On a mostly idle system, TLB entries hang around long
enough to make it fairly easy to exploit this. I was able to use the
additional test in lkdtm module added by this patch series to
successfully read pages unmapped from physmap by just waiting for system
to become idle. A rogue program can simply monitor system load and mount
its attack using ret2dir exploit when system is mostly idle. This brings
us back to the prohibitive cost of TLB flushes. If we are unmapping a
page from physmap every time the page is allocated to userspace, we are
forced to incur the cost of TLB flushes in some way. Work Tycho was
doing to implement Dave's suggestion can help here. Once Tycho has
something working, I can measure overhead on my test machine. Tycho, I
can help with your implementation if you need.
--
Khalid
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-15 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 21:25 Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-08-20 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 21:52 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-08-20 22:18 ` Kees Cook
2018-08-20 22:18 ` Kees Cook
2018-08-20 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 22:35 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-08-20 22:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:14 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-20 23:26 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-21 9:57 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 14:01 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-21 14:22 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 23:04 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-30 16:00 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-08-31 15:26 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-01 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-01 22:33 ` Wes Turner
2018-09-03 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-03 14:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-12 15:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-13 6:11 ` Juerg Haefliger
2018-09-17 10:01 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-17 10:01 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-17 10:19 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-17 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-14 17:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-17 9:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-18 23:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-24 14:45 ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-09-24 14:45 ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-10-15 8:07 ` Khalid Aziz [this message]
2018-10-15 8:07 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 11:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 11:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 15:00 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-24 15:00 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-03 15:26 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-04 9:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-04 9:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-07 21:30 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-08-31 8:43 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-31 8:43 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19 1:03 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-19 1:03 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-19 15:34 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:38 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:43 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-23 2:33 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-25 14:12 ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-09-25 14:12 ` Stecklina, Julian
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