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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	"Longpeng (Mike,
	Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)" 
	<longpeng2@huawei.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:03:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f4c562d-fcee-3212-0880-f67fd45b1462@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98DB71EF-FF98-4509-85EC-26FF50825A58@gmail.com>

Hi Nadav,

On 3/18/21 2:12 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nadav,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
>>>>   reproduce the problem with high probability (~50%).
>>>
>>> I saw Lu replied, and he is much more knowledgable than I am (I was just intrigued
>>> by your email).
>>>
>>> However, if I were you I would try also to remove some “optimizations” to look for
>>> the root-cause (e.g., use domain specific invalidations instead of page-specific).
>>>
>>
>> Good suggestion! But we did it these days, we tried to use global invalidations as follow:
>> 		iommu->flush.flush_iotlb(iommu, did, 0, 0,
>> 						DMA_TLB_DSI_FLUSH);
>> But can not resolve the problem.
>>
>>> The first thing that comes to my mind is the invalidation hint (ih) in
>>> iommu_flush_iotlb_psi(). I would remove it to see whether you get the failure
>>> without it.
>>
>> We also notice the IH, but the IH is always ZERO in our case, as the spec says:
>> '''
>> Paging-structure-cache entries caching second-level mappings associated with the specified
>> domain-id and the second-level-input-address range are invalidated, if the Invalidation Hint
>> (IH) field is Clear.
>> '''
>>
>> It seems the software is everything fine, so we've no choice but to suspect the hardware.
> 
> Ok, I am pretty much out of ideas. I have two more suggestions, but
> they are much less likely to help. Yet, they can further help to rule
> out software bugs:
> 
> 1. dma_clear_pte() seems to be wrong IMHO. It should have used WRITE_ONCE()
> to prevent split-write, which might potentially cause “invalid” (partially
> cleared) PTE to be stored in the TLB. Having said that, the subsequent
> IOTLB flush should have prevented the problem.

Agreed. The pte read/write should use READ/WRITE_ONCE() instead.

> 
> 2. Consider ensuring that the problem is not somehow related to queued
> invalidations. Try to use __iommu_flush_iotlb() instead of
> qi_flush_iotlb().
> 
> Regards,
> Nadav
> 

Best regards,
baolu

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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	"Longpeng (Mike,
	Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)"
	<longpeng2@huawei.com>
Cc: chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei \(Arei\)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:03:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f4c562d-fcee-3212-0880-f67fd45b1462@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98DB71EF-FF98-4509-85EC-26FF50825A58@gmail.com>

Hi Nadav,

On 3/18/21 2:12 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nadav,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
>>>>   reproduce the problem with high probability (~50%).
>>>
>>> I saw Lu replied, and he is much more knowledgable than I am (I was just intrigued
>>> by your email).
>>>
>>> However, if I were you I would try also to remove some “optimizations” to look for
>>> the root-cause (e.g., use domain specific invalidations instead of page-specific).
>>>
>>
>> Good suggestion! But we did it these days, we tried to use global invalidations as follow:
>> 		iommu->flush.flush_iotlb(iommu, did, 0, 0,
>> 						DMA_TLB_DSI_FLUSH);
>> But can not resolve the problem.
>>
>>> The first thing that comes to my mind is the invalidation hint (ih) in
>>> iommu_flush_iotlb_psi(). I would remove it to see whether you get the failure
>>> without it.
>>
>> We also notice the IH, but the IH is always ZERO in our case, as the spec says:
>> '''
>> Paging-structure-cache entries caching second-level mappings associated with the specified
>> domain-id and the second-level-input-address range are invalidated, if the Invalidation Hint
>> (IH) field is Clear.
>> '''
>>
>> It seems the software is everything fine, so we've no choice but to suspect the hardware.
> 
> Ok, I am pretty much out of ideas. I have two more suggestions, but
> they are much less likely to help. Yet, they can further help to rule
> out software bugs:
> 
> 1. dma_clear_pte() seems to be wrong IMHO. It should have used WRITE_ONCE()
> to prevent split-write, which might potentially cause “invalid” (partially
> cleared) PTE to be stored in the TLB. Having said that, the subsequent
> IOTLB flush should have prevented the problem.

Agreed. The pte read/write should use READ/WRITE_ONCE() instead.

> 
> 2. Consider ensuring that the problem is not somehow related to queued
> invalidations. Try to use __iommu_flush_iotlb() instead of
> qi_flush_iotlb().
> 
> Regards,
> Nadav
> 

Best regards,
baolu
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-17  3:16 A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ? Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  3:16 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  5:16 ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-17  5:16   ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-17  9:40   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  9:40     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 15:18   ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-17 15:18     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-18  2:58     ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  2:58       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  4:46       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  4:46         ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  7:48         ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18  7:48           ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  5:46 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  5:46   ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  9:35   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  9:35     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 18:12     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17 18:12       ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18  3:03       ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2021-03-18  3:03         ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  8:20       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:20         ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:27           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:38           ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:38             ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:43             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:43               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:54               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:54                 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:56             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:56               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  9:25               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  9:25                 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18 16:46                 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18 16:46                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-21 23:51                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-21 23:51                     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-22  0:27                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-22  0:27                     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-27  2:31                   ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  2:31                     ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  4:36                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-27  4:36                       ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-27  5:27                       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  5:27                         ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19  0:15               ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19  0:15                 ` Lu Baolu

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