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From: "Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)"  <longpeng2@huawei.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:20:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d1c3bc0418e48b1b9d44799d65ea375@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98DB71EF-FF98-4509-85EC-26FF50825A58@gmail.com>

Hi Nadav,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:13 AM
> To: Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
> <longpeng2@huawei.com>
> Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>; Lu Baolu
> <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>; Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>; will@kernel.org;
> alex.williamson@redhat.com; chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>;
> iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>;
> LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service
> Product Dept.) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nadav,
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
> >>>  reproduce the problem with high probability (~50%).
> >>
> >> I saw Lu replied, and he is much more knowledgable than I am (I was
> >> just intrigued by your email).
> >>
> >> However, if I were you I would try also to remove some
> >> “optimizations” to look for the root-cause (e.g., use domain specific
> invalidations instead of page-specific).
> >>
> >
> > Good suggestion! But we did it these days, we tried to use global invalidations as
> follow:
> > 		iommu->flush.flush_iotlb(iommu, did, 0, 0,
> > 						DMA_TLB_DSI_FLUSH);
> > But can not resolve the problem.
> >
> >> The first thing that comes to my mind is the invalidation hint (ih)
> >> in iommu_flush_iotlb_psi(). I would remove it to see whether you get
> >> the failure without it.
> >
> > We also notice the IH, but the IH is always ZERO in our case, as the spec says:
> > '''
> > Paging-structure-cache entries caching second-level mappings
> > associated with the specified domain-id and the
> > second-level-input-address range are invalidated, if the Invalidation
> > Hint
> > (IH) field is Clear.
> > '''
> >
> > It seems the software is everything fine, so we've no choice but to suspect the
> hardware.
> 
> Ok, I am pretty much out of ideas. I have two more suggestions, but they are much
> less likely to help. Yet, they can further help to rule out software bugs:
> 
> 1. dma_clear_pte() seems to be wrong IMHO. It should have used WRITE_ONCE()
> to prevent split-write, which might potentially cause “invalid” (partially
> cleared) PTE to be stored in the TLB. Having said that, the subsequent IOTLB flush
> should have prevented the problem.
> 

Yes, use WRITE_ONCE is much safer, however I was just testing the following code,
it didn't resolved my problem.

static inline void dma_clear_pte(struct dma_pte *pte)
{
        WRITE_ONCE(pte->val, 0ULL);
}

> 2. Consider ensuring that the problem is not somehow related to queued
> invalidations. Try to use __iommu_flush_iotlb() instead of qi_flush_iotlb().
> 

I tried to force to use __iommu_flush_iotlb(), but maybe something wrong,
the system crashed, so I prefer to lower the priority of this operation.

> Regards,
> Nadav

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)" <longpeng2@huawei.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei \(Arei\)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:20:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d1c3bc0418e48b1b9d44799d65ea375@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98DB71EF-FF98-4509-85EC-26FF50825A58@gmail.com>

Hi Nadav,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:13 AM
> To: Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
> <longpeng2@huawei.com>
> Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>; Lu Baolu
> <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>; Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>; will@kernel.org;
> alex.williamson@redhat.com; chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>;
> iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>;
> LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service
> Product Dept.) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nadav,
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nadav Amit [mailto:nadav.amit@gmail.com]
> >>>  reproduce the problem with high probability (~50%).
> >>
> >> I saw Lu replied, and he is much more knowledgable than I am (I was
> >> just intrigued by your email).
> >>
> >> However, if I were you I would try also to remove some
> >> “optimizations” to look for the root-cause (e.g., use domain specific
> invalidations instead of page-specific).
> >>
> >
> > Good suggestion! But we did it these days, we tried to use global invalidations as
> follow:
> > 		iommu->flush.flush_iotlb(iommu, did, 0, 0,
> > 						DMA_TLB_DSI_FLUSH);
> > But can not resolve the problem.
> >
> >> The first thing that comes to my mind is the invalidation hint (ih)
> >> in iommu_flush_iotlb_psi(). I would remove it to see whether you get
> >> the failure without it.
> >
> > We also notice the IH, but the IH is always ZERO in our case, as the spec says:
> > '''
> > Paging-structure-cache entries caching second-level mappings
> > associated with the specified domain-id and the
> > second-level-input-address range are invalidated, if the Invalidation
> > Hint
> > (IH) field is Clear.
> > '''
> >
> > It seems the software is everything fine, so we've no choice but to suspect the
> hardware.
> 
> Ok, I am pretty much out of ideas. I have two more suggestions, but they are much
> less likely to help. Yet, they can further help to rule out software bugs:
> 
> 1. dma_clear_pte() seems to be wrong IMHO. It should have used WRITE_ONCE()
> to prevent split-write, which might potentially cause “invalid” (partially
> cleared) PTE to be stored in the TLB. Having said that, the subsequent IOTLB flush
> should have prevented the problem.
> 

Yes, use WRITE_ONCE is much safer, however I was just testing the following code,
it didn't resolved my problem.

static inline void dma_clear_pte(struct dma_pte *pte)
{
        WRITE_ONCE(pte->val, 0ULL);
}

> 2. Consider ensuring that the problem is not somehow related to queued
> invalidations. Try to use __iommu_flush_iotlb() instead of qi_flush_iotlb().
> 

I tried to force to use __iommu_flush_iotlb(), but maybe something wrong,
the system crashed, so I prefer to lower the priority of this operation.

> Regards,
> Nadav
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-17  3:16 A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ? Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  3:16 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  5:16 ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-17  5:16   ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-17  9:40   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  9:40     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 15:18   ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-17 15:18     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-18  2:58     ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  2:58       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  4:46       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  4:46         ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  7:48         ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18  7:48           ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  5:46 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  5:46   ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  9:35   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  9:35     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 18:12     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17 18:12       ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18  3:03       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  3:03         ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  8:20       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.) [this message]
2021-03-18  8:20         ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:27           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:38           ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:38             ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:43             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:43               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:54               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:54                 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:56             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:56               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  9:25               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  9:25                 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18 16:46                 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18 16:46                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-21 23:51                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-21 23:51                     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-22  0:27                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-22  0:27                     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-27  2:31                   ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  2:31                     ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  4:36                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-27  4:36                       ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-27  5:27                       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-27  5:27                         ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19  0:15               ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19  0:15                 ` Lu Baolu

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