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From: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>,
	Dieter N?tzel <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>,
	Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>,
	Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.kernel.2003@gmx.net>,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Horrible ftruncate performance
Date: 22 Jul 2003 14:24:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1058898249.2749.2.camel@tiny.suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F1D7DD8.3010806@namesys.com>

On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 14:09, Hans Reiser wrote:

> >It's important to remember that releasing v4 doesn't automatically
> >convert all existing v3 users to it.  This is the kind of thing we
> >should try to fix without making major design changes to v3.  It's at
> >least worth talking about, "use v4" can't always be the answer.
> >
> V3 is in feature freeze.   Unfortunately, determining what is a feature 
> and what is a bug is a process based not just on the user experience, 
> but on the structure of the code.  The proper fix for this bug is to add 
> a feature called extents.   This  belongs in, and is in, V4.  V4 will be 
> available very soon.
> 
> Adding features, like new kinds of items, will disturb the stability of 
> V3.  V3 needs to be zero defect.  It is now in a phase in its lifetime 
> where conservatism is appropriate.
> 

Heh, everything needs to be zero defect ;-)  But I completely agree
about not adding new item types or other format changes.  Still,
non-extent filesystems can create holes faster than we can, so it is
worth talking about ways to fix it (within the constraints of existing
code).

-chris



  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-22 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-10  3:23 Horrible ftruncate performance Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10  5:29 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10  7:30   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10  9:21     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10  8:17       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10 10:01         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10 14:01           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10 15:44             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 14:35       ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 14:49         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:16           ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:24             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:27               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:32                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:35                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:32               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:36                 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-11 15:36                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:38                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:34               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-11 15:44                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 17:09                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 17:27                     ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 18:32                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 19:51                         ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-12  1:37                           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-12  5:16                             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-07-12  3:49                               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-12 13:51                                 ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-15 12:19                                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-15 16:48                                     ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-15 17:05                                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-15 19:55                                         ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-16 10:35                                           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-16 10:47                                             ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-16 10:57                                               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-17 18:12                                                 ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-22 16:43                                         ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-22 16:50                                           ` Chris Mason
2003-07-22 18:09                                             ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-22 18:24                                               ` Chris Mason [this message]
2003-07-23  0:16                                                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-23  6:25                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23  5:49                                                     ` Voicu Liviu
2003-07-23  7:32                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23  7:19                                                         ` Voicu Liviu
2003-07-23  6:14                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 14:38                                                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-23 14:55                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 16:20                                                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-23 12:25                                               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 13:39                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 13:46                                                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 13:52                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 14:24                                                       ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 15:24                                                         ` Philippe Gramoullé
2003-07-12 14:05                             ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-13 13:00                               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-13 12:58                             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-14  8:45                               ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-13 13:03                             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-15 11:51                               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-15 13:51                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-11 19:23                       ` Philippe Gramoullé
2003-08-03 14:05                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-04 13:41                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 14:27   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 14:32     ` Dieter Nützel

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