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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, jmorris@namei.org,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl selinux: Don't look at table->de
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:04:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1170075866.8720.15.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1r6tfq7nv.fsf_-_@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 12:21 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> With the sysctl cleanups sysctl is not really a part of proc
> it just shows up there, and any path based approach will not
> adequately describe the data as sysctl is essentially a
> union mount underneath the covers.  As designed this mechanism
> is viewer dependent so trying to be path based gets even worse.
> 
> However the permissions in sys_sysctl are currently immutable
> and going through proc does not change the permission checks
> when accessing sysctl.  So we might as well stick with the well
> defined sysctl sid, as that is what selinux uses when proc is
> not compiled in.
> 
> I.e.  I see no hope for salvaging the selinux_proc_get_sid call
> in selinux_sysctl so I'm removing it.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> ---
>  security/selinux/hooks.c |    8 ++------
>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/security/selinux/hooks.c b/security/selinux/hooks.c
> index 7b38372..3a36057 100644
> --- a/security/selinux/hooks.c
> +++ b/security/selinux/hooks.c
> @@ -1438,12 +1438,8 @@ static int selinux_sysctl(ctl_table *table, int op)
>  
>  	tsec = current->security;
>  
> -	rc = selinux_proc_get_sid(table->de, (op == 001) ?
> -	                          SECCLASS_DIR : SECCLASS_FILE, &tsid);
> -	if (rc) {
> -		/* Default to the well-defined sysctl SID. */
> -		tsid = SECINITSID_SYSCTL;
> -	}
> +	/* Use the well-defined sysctl SID. */
> +	tsid = SECINITSID_SYSCTL;
>  
>  	/* The op values are "defined" in sysctl.c, thereby creating
>  	 * a bad coupling between this module and sysctl.c */

NAK.  Mapping all sysctls to a single security label prevents any kind
of fine-grained security on sysctls, and current policies already make
use of the current distinctions to limit access to particular sets of
sysctls to particular processes.  As is, I'd expect breakage of current
systems running SELinux from this patch, because (confined) processes
that formerly only required access to specific sysctl labels will
suddenly run into denials on the generic fallback label.

If the ctl_table supplied more information about the functional purpose
and the security sensitivity of the sysctl, then we could leverage that
information instead, as long as we can at least derive the current
labelings from that information for compatibility.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, jmorris@namei.org,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl selinux: Don't look at table->de
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:04:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1170075866.8720.15.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1r6tfq7nv.fsf_-_@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 12:21 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> With the sysctl cleanups sysctl is not really a part of proc
> it just shows up there, and any path based approach will not
> adequately describe the data as sysctl is essentially a
> union mount underneath the covers.  As designed this mechanism
> is viewer dependent so trying to be path based gets even worse.
> 
> However the permissions in sys_sysctl are currently immutable
> and going through proc does not change the permission checks
> when accessing sysctl.  So we might as well stick with the well
> defined sysctl sid, as that is what selinux uses when proc is
> not compiled in.
> 
> I.e.  I see no hope for salvaging the selinux_proc_get_sid call
> in selinux_sysctl so I'm removing it.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> ---
>  security/selinux/hooks.c |    8 ++------
>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/security/selinux/hooks.c b/security/selinux/hooks.c
> index 7b38372..3a36057 100644
> --- a/security/selinux/hooks.c
> +++ b/security/selinux/hooks.c
> @@ -1438,12 +1438,8 @@ static int selinux_sysctl(ctl_table *table, int op)
>  
>  	tsec = current->security;
>  
> -	rc = selinux_proc_get_sid(table->de, (op == 001) ?
> -	                          SECCLASS_DIR : SECCLASS_FILE, &tsid);
> -	if (rc) {
> -		/* Default to the well-defined sysctl SID. */
> -		tsid = SECINITSID_SYSCTL;
> -	}
> +	/* Use the well-defined sysctl SID. */
> +	tsid = SECINITSID_SYSCTL;
>  
>  	/* The op values are "defined" in sysctl.c, thereby creating
>  	 * a bad coupling between this module and sysctl.c */

NAK.  Mapping all sysctls to a single security label prevents any kind
of fine-grained security on sysctls, and current policies already make
use of the current distinctions to limit access to particular sets of
sysctls to particular processes.  As is, I'd expect breakage of current
systems running SELinux from this patch, because (confined) processes
that formerly only required access to specific sysctl labels will
suddenly run into denials on the generic fallback label.

If the ctl_table supplied more information about the functional purpose
and the security sensitivity of the sysctl, then we could leverage that
information instead, as long as we can at least derive the current
labelings from that information for compatibility.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-29 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-28  1:05 + clocksource-add-verification-watchdog-helper-fix-3.patch added to -mm tree akpm
     [not found] ` <20070127172410.2b041952.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <1169972718.17469.164.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <20070128003549.2ca38dc8.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]       ` <20070128093358.GA2071@elte.hu>
     [not found]         ` <20070128095712.GA6485@elte.hu>
     [not found]           ` <20070128100627.GA8416@elte.hu>
     [not found]             ` <20070128104548.a835d859.akpm@osdl.org>
2007-01-28 19:21               ` [PATCH] sysctl selinux: Don't look at table->de Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:21                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 13:04                 ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2007-01-29 13:04                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 15:23                   ` James Morris
2007-01-29 15:23                     ` James Morris
2007-01-29 17:55                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 17:55                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 19:26                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 19:26                         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 17:43                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 17:43                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 18:43                     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 18:43                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 19:08                       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-29 19:08                         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-29 20:07                         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 20:07                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-30 10:25                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-30 17:19                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-30 17:19                             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-29 19:16                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 19:16                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 23:28                       ` Russell Coker
2007-01-29 23:28                         ` Russell Coker
2007-02-06 21:16                   ` [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: Add a parent entry to ctl_table and set the parent entry Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-06 21:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-06 21:21                     ` [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: Restore the selinux path based label lookup for sysctls Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-06 21:21                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-07 18:24                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 18:24                         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 21:12                         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 21:12                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 21:54                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 21:54                             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-07 22:21                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-07 22:21                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 15:07                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08 15:07                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08  1:57                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08  1:57                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 15:01                             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08 15:01                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08 17:53                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 17:53                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 18:13                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08 18:13                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-08 22:17                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:17                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:51                                     ` [PATCH 0/5] sysctl cleanup selinux fixes Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:51                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:53                                       ` [PATCH 1/5] sysctl: Remove declaration of nonexistent sysctl_init() Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:53                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:54                                         ` [PATCH 2/5] sysctl: Set the parent field in the root sysctl table Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:54                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:55                                           ` [PATCH 3/5] sysctl: Fix the selinux_sysctl_get_sid Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 22:55                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 23:02                                             ` [PATCH 4/5] selinux: Enhance selinux to always ignore private inodes Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 23:02                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 23:04                                               ` [PATCH 5/5] sysctl: Hide the sysctl proc inodes from selinux Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-08 23:04                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-09 12:26                                               ` [PATCH 4/5] selinux: Enhance selinux to always ignore private inodes Stephen Smalley
2007-02-09 12:26                                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-09 12:24                                             ` [PATCH 3/5] sysctl: Fix the selinux_sysctl_get_sid Stephen Smalley
2007-02-09 12:24                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-02-09 11:05                                       ` [PATCH 0/5] sysctl cleanup selinux fixes Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 18:09                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-09 18:09                                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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