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From: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Alex Romosan <romosan@sycorax.lbl.gov>,
	Yaroslav Halchenko <kernel@onerussian.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:12:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1172103159.5790.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070221231706.GA3336@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 21:17 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > enabled. On a thinkpad, the backlight is probably under ACPI control.
> 
> BIOS+ACPI, actually.  Without ACPI video loaded, the firmware does
> everything correctly.  With ACPI video, the firmware does it, then its
> changes are clobbered over by ACPI video's.
> 
> If ibm-acpi is loaded, a backlight device "ibm" is added.  ibm-acpi's ibm
> backlight device can change the display brightness.  It is *not* capable of
> turning the backlight on or off, AFAIK.
> 
> BTW, some ThinkPads don't have a Radeon, but rather an Intel GM/GMX device.

I have a thinkpad with Intel GM graphics ;-). I need it to work so I try
not to experiment too much on it. I've just tried the ibm-acpi driver
and it doesn't work well :-(.

So far I've noticed:

* 'cat brightness' != 'cat actual_brightness' upon bootup (doesn't have
to be true if there is hardware brightness limiting or level changing in
action but that wouldn't be the case here and this could be fixed
easily).
* 'echo 0 > brightness' lowered the intensity but by a level or two, not
set it to level 0. A couple of more attempts and it did jump from 7 -> 1
and so on, it seems erratic.

actual_brightness always seems to be correct, as does brightness so it
looks like its not updating the hardware correctly.

Regards,

Richard








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From: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
	Alex Romosan <romosan@sycorax.lbl.gov>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Yaroslav Halchenko <kernel@onerussian.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:12:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1172103159.5790.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070221231706.GA3336@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 21:17 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > enabled. On a thinkpad, the backlight is probably under ACPI control.
> 
> BIOS+ACPI, actually.  Without ACPI video loaded, the firmware does
> everything correctly.  With ACPI video, the firmware does it, then its
> changes are clobbered over by ACPI video's.
> 
> If ibm-acpi is loaded, a backlight device "ibm" is added.  ibm-acpi's ibm
> backlight device can change the display brightness.  It is *not* capable of
> turning the backlight on or off, AFAIK.
> 
> BTW, some ThinkPads don't have a Radeon, but rather an Intel GM/GMX device.

I have a thinkpad with Intel GM graphics ;-). I need it to work so I try
not to experiment too much on it. I've just tried the ibm-acpi driver
and it doesn't work well :-(.

So far I've noticed:

* 'cat brightness' != 'cat actual_brightness' upon bootup (doesn't have
to be true if there is hardware brightness limiting or level changing in
action but that wouldn't be the case here and this could be fixed
easily).
* 'echo 0 > brightness' lowered the intensity but by a level or two, not
set it to level 0. A couple of more attempts and it did jump from 7 -> 1
and so on, it seems erratic.

actual_brightness always seems to be correct, as does brightness so it
looks like its not updating the hardware correctly.

Regards,

Richard








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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-22  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-19  4:46 no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s Yaroslav Halchenko
2007-02-19  8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19  8:04   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19  9:19   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-19  9:19     ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21  5:56     ` Yaroslav Halchenko
2007-02-22  0:34       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  0:34         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  1:07         ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:07           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  9:46           ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  9:46             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 15:18             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:11       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-02-22  2:09         ` Joel Becker
2007-02-22 15:55           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 15:55             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 17:28             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " David Miller
2007-02-22 17:28               ` David Miller
2007-02-28 16:55               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-03-01 10:57                 ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-01 10:57                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-01 21:08                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-03-01 21:08                     ` James Simmons
2007-02-21 22:18     ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-21 22:41       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 22:41         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 23:17         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  0:12           ` Richard Purdie [this message]
2007-02-22  0:12             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  0:51             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:10               ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  1:10                 ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  2:13                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:10               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:16                 ` ACPI: ibm-acpi: fix initial status of backlight device Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 10:03                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:45                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 18:19                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 10:00                 ` no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 10:00                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:56                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 15:19                     ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 15:19                       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 16:00                       ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 16:00                         ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 16:34                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 17:08                         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 17:08                           ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 23:51         ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-22  1:13           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:13             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  9:56             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  9:56               ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:38               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  4:03         ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-22  4:58         ` Alex Romosan

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