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From: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
To: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Alex Romosan <romosan@sycorax.lbl.gov>,
	Yaroslav Halchenko <kernel@onerussian.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:00:16 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702221558550.29542@pentafluge.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1172157592.5837.89.camel@localhost.localdomain>


> > Howerver, I *do* strongly wish for a way to combine various drivers into a
> > single backlight device, where radeon/intelfb takes care of some stuff,
> > ibm-acpi/asus-laptop/sony-laptop takes care of other stuff, etc.  Also, a
> > standard naming for the builtin screen(s) would help, calling it "ibm",
> > "asus", "sony" is not good IMHO.
> 
> I wasn't aware of this problem. If some devices need bits from both
> raedon/whatever and acpi, the current implementations are just plain
> wrong. Its not really a backlight class problem and more of an
> implementation and interaction problem between acpi and the framebuffer
> drivers. They should be presenting and registering *one* backlight class
> device, not two. Without knowing more about the circumstances and
> how/when to combine which drivers its hard for me to help further...

This is always been a problem. For the fbdev layer you can run vesafb with 
a specific fbdev driver and they both access the same hardware. There is 
no really way around this. The user has to be smart enough to not enable 
bothe drivers.


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From: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
To: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Alex Romosan <romosan@sycorax.lbl.gov>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Yaroslav Halchenko <kernel@onerussian.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:00:16 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702221558550.29542@pentafluge.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1172157592.5837.89.camel@localhost.localdomain>


> > Howerver, I *do* strongly wish for a way to combine various drivers into a
> > single backlight device, where radeon/intelfb takes care of some stuff,
> > ibm-acpi/asus-laptop/sony-laptop takes care of other stuff, etc.  Also, a
> > standard naming for the builtin screen(s) would help, calling it "ibm",
> > "asus", "sony" is not good IMHO.
> 
> I wasn't aware of this problem. If some devices need bits from both
> raedon/whatever and acpi, the current implementations are just plain
> wrong. Its not really a backlight class problem and more of an
> implementation and interaction problem between acpi and the framebuffer
> drivers. They should be presenting and registering *one* backlight class
> device, not two. Without knowing more about the circumstances and
> how/when to combine which drivers its hard for me to help further...

This is always been a problem. For the fbdev layer you can run vesafb with 
a specific fbdev driver and they both access the same hardware. There is 
no really way around this. The user has to be smart enough to not enable 
bothe drivers.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-22 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-19  4:46 no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s Yaroslav Halchenko
2007-02-19  8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19  8:04   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19  9:19   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-19  9:19     ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21  5:56     ` Yaroslav Halchenko
2007-02-22  0:34       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  0:34         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  1:07         ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:07           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  9:46           ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  9:46             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 15:18             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:11       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-02-22  2:09         ` Joel Becker
2007-02-22 15:55           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 15:55             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 17:28             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " David Miller
2007-02-22 17:28               ` David Miller
2007-02-28 16:55               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-03-01 10:57                 ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-01 10:57                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-01 21:08                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2007-03-01 21:08                     ` James Simmons
2007-02-21 22:18     ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-21 22:41       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 22:41         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 23:17         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  0:12           ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  0:12             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  0:51             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:10               ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  1:10                 ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  2:13                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:10               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  1:16                 ` ACPI: ibm-acpi: fix initial status of backlight device Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 10:03                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:45                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 18:19                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 10:00                 ` no backlight on radeon after recent kernel "upgrade"s Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 10:00                   ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:56                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 15:19                     ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 15:19                       ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 16:00                       ` James Simmons [this message]
2007-02-22 16:00                         ` James Simmons
2007-02-22 16:34                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22 17:08                         ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 17:08                           ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-21 23:51         ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-22  1:13           ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  1:13             ` James Simmons
2007-02-22  9:56             ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22  9:56               ` Richard Purdie
2007-02-22 14:38               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-22  4:03         ` Alex Romosan
2007-02-22  4:58         ` Alex Romosan

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