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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ngupta@vflare.org, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	JBeulich@novell.com, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Neo Jia <cyclonusj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] mm: frontswap (for 3.2 window)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:12:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1319785956.3235.7.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111027215243.GA31644@infradead.org>

On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 17:52 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 02:49:31PM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > If Linux truly subscribes to the "code rules" mantra, no core
> > VM developer has proposed anything -- even a design, let alone
> > working code -- that comes close to providing the functionality
> > and flexibility that frontswap (and cleancache) provides, and
> > frontswap provides it with a very VERY small impact on existing
> > kernel code AND has been posted and working for 2+ years.
> > (And during that 2+ years, excellent feedback has improved the
> > "kernel-ness" of the code, but NONE of the core frontswap
> > design/hooks have changed... because frontswap _just works_!)
> 
> It might work for whatever defintion of work, but you certainly couldn't
> convince anyone that matters that it's actually sexy and we'd actually
> need it.  Only actually working on Xen of course doesn't help.

Theres a working POC of it on KVM, mostly based on reusing in-kernel Xen
code.

I felt it would be difficult to try and merge any tmem KVM patches until
both frontswap and cleancache are in the kernel, thats why the
development is currently paused at the POC level.

-- 

Sasha.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ngupta@vflare.org, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	JBeulich@novell.com, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Neo Jia <cyclonusj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] mm: frontswap (for 3.2 window)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:12:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1319785956.3235.7.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111027215243.GA31644@infradead.org>

On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 17:52 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 02:49:31PM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > If Linux truly subscribes to the "code rules" mantra, no core
> > VM developer has proposed anything -- even a design, let alone
> > working code -- that comes close to providing the functionality
> > and flexibility that frontswap (and cleancache) provides, and
> > frontswap provides it with a very VERY small impact on existing
> > kernel code AND has been posted and working for 2+ years.
> > (And during that 2+ years, excellent feedback has improved the
> > "kernel-ness" of the code, but NONE of the core frontswap
> > design/hooks have changed... because frontswap _just works_!)
> 
> It might work for whatever defintion of work, but you certainly couldn't
> convince anyone that matters that it's actually sexy and we'd actually
> need it.  Only actually working on Xen of course doesn't help.

Theres a working POC of it on KVM, mostly based on reusing in-kernel Xen
code.

I felt it would be difficult to try and merge any tmem KVM patches until
both frontswap and cleancache are in the kernel, thats why the
development is currently paused at the POC level.

-- 

Sasha.

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Thread overview: 175+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-27 18:52 [GIT PULL] mm: frontswap (for 3.2 window) Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 18:52 ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110271318220.7639@chino.kir.corp.google.com20111027211157.GA1199@infradead.org>
2011-10-27 19:30 ` Kurt Hackel
2011-10-27 19:30   ` Kurt Hackel
2011-10-27 20:18 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-27 20:18   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-27 21:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 21:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 21:49     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 21:49       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 21:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 21:52         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 22:21         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 22:21           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28  7:12         ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2011-10-28  7:12           ` Sasha Levin
     [not found]           ` <CAOzbF4fnD=CGR-nizZoBxmFSuAjFC3uAHf3wDj5RLneJvJhrOQ@mail.gmail.comCAOJsxLGOTw7rtFnqeHvzFxifA0QgPVDHZzrEo=-uB2Gkrvp=JQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <552d2067-474d-4aef-a9a4-89e5fd8ef84f@default20111031181651.GF3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]               ` <60592afd-97aa-4eaf-b86b-f6695d31c7f1@default20111031223717.GI3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                 ` <1b2e4f74-7058-4712-85a7-84198723e3ee@default20111101012017.GJ3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <6a9db6d9-6f13-4855-b026-ba668c29ddfa@default20111101180702.GL3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                     ` <b8a0ca71-a31b-488a-9a92-2502d4a6e9bf@default20111102013122.GA18879@redhat.com>
2011-10-28  7:30           ` Cyclonus J
2011-10-28  7:30             ` Cyclonus J
2011-10-28 14:26             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 14:26               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 15:21               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 15:21                 ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]                 ` <CAOJsxLEE-qf9me1SAZLFiEVhHVnDh7BDrSx1+abe9R4mfkhD=g@mail.gmail.com20111028163053.GC1319@redhat.com>
2011-10-28 15:36                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 15:36                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 16:30                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-28 16:30                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-28 17:01                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 17:01                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 17:07                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 17:07                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 18:28                       ` John Stoffel
2011-10-28 18:28                         ` John Stoffel
2011-10-28 20:19                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 20:19                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 20:52                           ` John Stoffel
2011-10-28 20:52                             ` John Stoffel
2011-10-30 19:18                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-30 19:18                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-30 20:06                               ` Dave Hansen
2011-10-30 20:06                                 ` Dave Hansen
2011-10-30 21:50                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-30 21:50                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 19:45                                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 19:45                                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 20:45                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:45                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-06 22:32                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-11-08 12:15                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-11-08 12:15                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-10-31  8:12                           ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31  8:12                             ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 15:39                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 15:39                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 10:13                               ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 10:13                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 18:10                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:10                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:48                                   ` Dave Hansen
2011-11-01 18:48                                     ` Dave Hansen
2011-11-01 21:32                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 21:32                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  7:44                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02  7:44                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02 19:39                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 19:39                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 18:44                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-30 21:47                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-30 21:47                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-30 23:19                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-30 23:19                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:34                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 18:34                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 21:45                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 21:45                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 16:37                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 16:37                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 16:59                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 16:59                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 17:20                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 17:20                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 18:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 20:58                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 20:58                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 22:37                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 22:37                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 23:36                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 23:36                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01  1:20                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01  1:20                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 16:41                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 16:41                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:07                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 18:07                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 21:00                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 21:00                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  1:31                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02  1:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02 19:06                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 19:06                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03  0:32                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-03  0:32                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-03 22:29                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03 22:29                                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:51                         ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 20:51                           ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 21:14                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 21:14                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-15 16:29                             ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-15 16:29                               ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-15 17:33                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-11-15 17:33                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-11-16 14:49                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-16 14:49                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-01 10:16                   ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 10:16                     ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 18:21                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:21                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  8:14                       ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02  8:14                         ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02 20:08                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:08                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03 10:30                           ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-03 10:30                             ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-03 14:59                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03 14:59                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 15:44                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 15:44                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 16:02                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02 16:02                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02 16:13                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 16:13                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 20:27                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:27                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:19                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:19                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 21:44 ` Avi Miller
2011-10-27 21:44   ` Avi Miller
2011-10-27 22:33 ` Brian King
2011-10-27 22:33   ` Brian King
2011-10-28  5:17 ` Nitin Gupta
2011-10-28  5:17   ` Nitin Gupta
2011-10-29 13:43 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-10-29 13:43   ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-10-31  8:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-31  8:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-31 16:38   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 16:38     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01  0:50     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-01  0:50       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-01 15:25       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 15:25         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 21:43         ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-01 21:43           ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-01 22:25           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 22:25             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 21:03           ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 21:03             ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 21:42             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 21:42               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  1:14         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-02  1:14           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-02 15:12           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 15:12             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-04  4:19             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-04  4:19               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-03 16:49 ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-03 16:49   ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-04  0:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-04  0:54     ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-04  8:49     ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-04  8:49       ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-04 12:37 Clayton Weaver
2011-11-05 17:08 Clayton Weaver

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