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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:18:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1393625885.6784.106.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228202031.GB12820@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 15:20 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:49:31AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:18 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 :
> Glad to see you're looking at it.  Let me try to help ...

Hi Matt,

Thanks for the help.  This is really a nice work, and I am hoping to
help it... (in some day! :-)

> > The original code,
> > xip_file_fault(), jumps to found: and calls vm_insert_mixed() when
> > get_xip_mem(,,0,,) succeeded.  If get_xip_mem() returns -ENODATA, it
> > calls either get_xip_mem(,,1,,) or xip_sparse_page().  In this new
> > function, it looks to me that get_block(,,,0) returns 0 for both cases
> > (success and -ENODATA previously), which are dealt in the same way.  Is
> > that right?  If so, is there any reason for the change?
> 
> Yes, get_xip_mem() returned -ENODATA for a hole.  That was a suboptimal
> interface because filesystems are actually capable of returning more
> information than that, eg how long the hole is (ext4 *doesn't*, but I
> consider that to be a bug).
> 
> I don't get to decide what the get_block() interface looks like.  It's the
> standard way that the VFS calls back into the filesystem and has been
> around for probably close to twenty years at this point.  I'm still trying
> to understand exactly what the contract is for get_blocks() ... I have
> a document that I'm working on to try to explain it, but it's tough going!

Got it.  Yes, get_block() is a beast for file system newbie like me.
Thanks for working on the document.

> > Also, isn't it
> > possible to call get_block(,,,1) even if get_block(,,,0) found a block?
> 
> The code in question looks like this:
> 
>         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 0);
>         if (error || bh.b_size < PAGE_SIZE)
>                 goto sigbus;
> 
>         if (!buffer_written(&bh) && !vmf->cow_page) {
>                 if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) {
>                         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 1);
> 
> where buffer_written is defined as:
>         return buffer_mapped(bh) && !buffer_unwritten(bh);
> 
> Doing some boolean algebra, that's:
> 
> 	if (!buffer_mapped || buffer_unwritten)

Oh, I see!  When the first get_block(,,,0) succeeded, this buffer is
mapped.  So, it won't go into this path.

> In either case, we want to tell the filesystem that we're writing to
> this block.  At least, that's my current understanding of the get_block()
> interface.  I'm open to correction here!

Thanks again!
-Toshi


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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:18:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1393625885.6784.106.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228202031.GB12820@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 15:20 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:49:31AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:18 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 :
> Glad to see you're looking at it.  Let me try to help ...

Hi Matt,

Thanks for the help.  This is really a nice work, and I am hoping to
help it... (in some day! :-)

> > The original code,
> > xip_file_fault(), jumps to found: and calls vm_insert_mixed() when
> > get_xip_mem(,,0,,) succeeded.  If get_xip_mem() returns -ENODATA, it
> > calls either get_xip_mem(,,1,,) or xip_sparse_page().  In this new
> > function, it looks to me that get_block(,,,0) returns 0 for both cases
> > (success and -ENODATA previously), which are dealt in the same way.  Is
> > that right?  If so, is there any reason for the change?
> 
> Yes, get_xip_mem() returned -ENODATA for a hole.  That was a suboptimal
> interface because filesystems are actually capable of returning more
> information than that, eg how long the hole is (ext4 *doesn't*, but I
> consider that to be a bug).
> 
> I don't get to decide what the get_block() interface looks like.  It's the
> standard way that the VFS calls back into the filesystem and has been
> around for probably close to twenty years at this point.  I'm still trying
> to understand exactly what the contract is for get_blocks() ... I have
> a document that I'm working on to try to explain it, but it's tough going!

Got it.  Yes, get_block() is a beast for file system newbie like me.
Thanks for working on the document.

> > Also, isn't it
> > possible to call get_block(,,,1) even if get_block(,,,0) found a block?
> 
> The code in question looks like this:
> 
>         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 0);
>         if (error || bh.b_size < PAGE_SIZE)
>                 goto sigbus;
> 
>         if (!buffer_written(&bh) && !vmf->cow_page) {
>                 if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) {
>                         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 1);
> 
> where buffer_written is defined as:
>         return buffer_mapped(bh) && !buffer_unwritten(bh);
> 
> Doing some boolean algebra, that's:
> 
> 	if (!buffer_mapped || buffer_unwritten)

Oh, I see!  When the first get_block(,,,0) succeeded, this buffer is
mapped.  So, it won't go into this path.

> In either case, we want to tell the filesystem that we're writing to
> this block.  At least, that's my current understanding of the get_block()
> interface.  I'm open to correction here!

Thanks again!
-Toshi

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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:18:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1393625885.6784.106.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228202031.GB12820@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 15:20 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:49:31AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:18 -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 :
> Glad to see you're looking at it.  Let me try to help ...

Hi Matt,

Thanks for the help.  This is really a nice work, and I am hoping to
help it... (in some day! :-)

> > The original code,
> > xip_file_fault(), jumps to found: and calls vm_insert_mixed() when
> > get_xip_mem(,,0,,) succeeded.  If get_xip_mem() returns -ENODATA, it
> > calls either get_xip_mem(,,1,,) or xip_sparse_page().  In this new
> > function, it looks to me that get_block(,,,0) returns 0 for both cases
> > (success and -ENODATA previously), which are dealt in the same way.  Is
> > that right?  If so, is there any reason for the change?
> 
> Yes, get_xip_mem() returned -ENODATA for a hole.  That was a suboptimal
> interface because filesystems are actually capable of returning more
> information than that, eg how long the hole is (ext4 *doesn't*, but I
> consider that to be a bug).
> 
> I don't get to decide what the get_block() interface looks like.  It's the
> standard way that the VFS calls back into the filesystem and has been
> around for probably close to twenty years at this point.  I'm still trying
> to understand exactly what the contract is for get_blocks() ... I have
> a document that I'm working on to try to explain it, but it's tough going!

Got it.  Yes, get_block() is a beast for file system newbie like me.
Thanks for working on the document.

> > Also, isn't it
> > possible to call get_block(,,,1) even if get_block(,,,0) found a block?
> 
> The code in question looks like this:
> 
>         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 0);
>         if (error || bh.b_size < PAGE_SIZE)
>                 goto sigbus;
> 
>         if (!buffer_written(&bh) && !vmf->cow_page) {
>                 if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) {
>                         error = get_block(inode, block, &bh, 1);
> 
> where buffer_written is defined as:
>         return buffer_mapped(bh) && !buffer_unwritten(bh);
> 
> Doing some boolean algebra, that's:
> 
> 	if (!buffer_mapped || buffer_unwritten)

Oh, I see!  When the first get_block(,,,0) succeeded, this buffer is
mapped.  So, it won't go into this path.

> In either case, we want to tell the filesystem that we're writing to
> this block.  At least, that's my current understanding of the get_block()
> interface.  I'm open to correction here!

Thanks again!
-Toshi

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-28 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-25 14:18 [PATCH v6 00/22] Support ext4 on NV-DIMMs Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 01/22] Fix XIP fault vs truncate race Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 02/22] Allow page fault handlers to perform the COW Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 03/22] axonram: Fix bug in direct_access Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 04/22] Change direct_access calling convention Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 05/22] Introduce IS_DAX(inode) Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 06/22] Replace XIP read and write with DAX I/O Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-03-11  0:32   ` Toshi Kani
2014-03-11  0:32     ` Toshi Kani
2014-03-11 12:53     ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-03-11 12:53       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 07/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-28 17:49   ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-28 17:49     ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-28 20:20     ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-28 20:20       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-28 22:18       ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2014-02-28 22:18         ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-28 22:18         ` Toshi Kani
2014-03-02 23:30       ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-02 23:30         ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-03 23:07         ` Ross Zwisler
2014-03-03 23:07           ` Ross Zwisler
2014-03-04  0:56           ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-04  0:56             ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-20 19:38             ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-03-20 19:38               ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-03-20 23:55               ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-20 23:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 08/22] Replace xip_truncate_page with dax_truncate_page Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 09/22] Remove mm/filemap_xip.c Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 10/22] Remove get_xip_mem Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 11/22] Replace ext2_clear_xip_target with dax_clear_blocks Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 12/22] ext2: Remove ext2_xip_verify_sb() Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 13/22] ext2: Remove ext2_use_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 14/22] ext2: Remove xip.c and xip.h Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 15/22] Remove CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP and rename CONFIG_FS_XIP to CONFIG_FS_DAX Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 16/22] ext2: Remove ext2_aops_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 17/22] Get rid of most mentions of XIP in ext2 Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 18/22] xip: Add xip_zero_page_range Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 19/22] ext4: Make ext4_block_zero_page_range static Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 20/22] ext4: Add DAX functionality Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 21/22] ext4: Fix typos Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18 ` [PATCH v6 22/22] dax: Add reporting of major faults Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-25 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-26 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 23/22] Bugfixes Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-26 15:07   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-27 14:01 ` [PATCH v6 00/22] Support ext4 on NV-DIMMs Florian Weimer
2014-02-27 14:01   ` Florian Weimer
2014-02-27 16:29   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-27 16:29     ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-02-27 16:36     ` Florian Weimer
2014-02-27 16:36       ` Florian Weimer
2014-03-02  8:22 ` Pavel Machek
2014-03-02  8:22   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <CF4DEE22.25C8F%matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
2014-03-18 18:45   ` [PATCH v6 20/22] ext4: Add DAX functionality Ross Zwisler
2014-03-18 18:45     ` Ross Zwisler

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