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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:35:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1423031713.11044.141.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203.161955.1916354877509427788.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 16:19 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 07:27:10 +0000
> 
> > I'm guessing you don't want to push the *whole* management of the TLS
> > control connection *and* the UDP transport, and probing the latter with
> > keepalives, into the kernel? I certainly don't :)
> 
> Whilst Herbert Xu and I have discussed in the past supporting
> automatic SSL handling of socket data during socket writes in the
> kernel, doing TLS stuff would be a bit of a stretch :-)

Right. For the DTLS I was thinking we'd do the handshake in userspace
and then hand the UDP socket down. At that point it's basically the same
as ESP with the bytes in a slightly different place.

So I really am looking at an option for "here's a UDP socket to send
those tun packets out on, with <this> encryption setup" as the sanest
plan I can come up with.

-- 
dwmw2


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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	mst@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:35:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1423031713.11044.141.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203.161955.1916354877509427788.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 16:19 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 07:27:10 +0000
> 
> > I'm guessing you don't want to push the *whole* management of the TLS
> > control connection *and* the UDP transport, and probing the latter with
> > keepalives, into the kernel? I certainly don't :)
> 
> Whilst Herbert Xu and I have discussed in the past supporting
> automatic SSL handling of socket data during socket writes in the
> kernel, doing TLS stuff would be a bit of a stretch :-)

Right. For the DTLS I was thinking we'd do the handshake in userspace
and then hand the UDP socket down. At that point it's basically the same
as ESP with the bytes in a slightly different place.

So I really am looking at an option for "here's a UDP socket to send
those tun packets out on, with <this> encryption setup" as the sanest
plan I can come up with.

-- 
dwmw2


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-04  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 14:59 [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 15:12 ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-13 15:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Herbert Xu
2010-04-13 15:12   ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-13 15:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 15:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 16:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 16:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 16:52     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 16:52       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 17:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 17:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 18:31       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 18:31         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:25           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:38           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:43               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14  0:58         ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-14  0:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Herbert Xu
2010-04-14  0:58           ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-14 11:55           ` David Miller
2010-04-14 11:55             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2010-04-14 11:55             ` David Miller
2015-02-01 11:20           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 11:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 12:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-02-01 12:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-02-01 13:33               ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 13:33                 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 20:19                 ` David Miller
2015-02-01 20:19                   ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-01 21:29                   ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 21:29                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  5:07                     ` David Miller
2015-02-02  5:07                       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-02  5:07                       ` David Miller
2015-02-02  7:27                       ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  7:27                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  8:24                         ` Steffen Klassert
2015-02-02  8:24                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Steffen Klassert
2015-02-02 15:30                           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:30                             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:23                         ` Phil Sutter
2015-02-02 15:23                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Phil Sutter
2015-02-02 15:47                           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:47                             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-04  0:19                         ` David Miller
2015-02-04  0:19                           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-04  6:35                           ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2015-02-04  6:35                             ` David Woodhouse
2021-06-25 15:56                       ` Bringing the SSL VPN data path back in-kernel David Woodhouse
2010-04-21 11:35 ` [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:46   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-21 11:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-21 11:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 19:16   ` [stable] " Greg KH
2010-04-21 19:16     ` [Qemu-devel] " Greg KH
2010-09-14 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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