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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
	David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:12:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100413151238.GA13153@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413145944.GA7716@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 05:59:44PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> The following situation was observed in the field:
> tap1 sends packets, tap2 does not consume them, as a result
> tap1 can not be closed. This happens because
> tun/tap devices can hang on to skbs undefinitely.
> 
> As noted by Herbert, possible solutions include a timeout followed by a
> copy/change of ownership of the skb, or always copying/changing
> ownership if we're going into a hostile device.
> 
> This patch implements the second approach.
> 
> Note: one issue still remaining is that since skbs
> keep reference to tun socket and tun socket has a
> reference to tun device, we won't flush backlog,
> instead simply waiting for all skbs to get transmitted.
> At least this is not user-triggerable, and
> this was not reported in practice, my assumption is
> other devices besides tap complete an skb
> within finite time after it has been queued.
> 
> A possible solution for the second issue
> would not to have socket reference the device,
> instead, implement dev->destructor for tun, and
> wait for all skbs to complete there, but this
> needs some thought, probably too risky for 2.6.34.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Tested-by: Yan Vugenfirer <yvugenfi@redhat.com>

Acked-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>

Thanks,
-- 
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Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
	David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:12:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100413151238.GA13153@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413145944.GA7716@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 05:59:44PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> The following situation was observed in the field:
> tap1 sends packets, tap2 does not consume them, as a result
> tap1 can not be closed. This happens because
> tun/tap devices can hang on to skbs undefinitely.
> 
> As noted by Herbert, possible solutions include a timeout followed by a
> copy/change of ownership of the skb, or always copying/changing
> ownership if we're going into a hostile device.
> 
> This patch implements the second approach.
> 
> Note: one issue still remaining is that since skbs
> keep reference to tun socket and tun socket has a
> reference to tun device, we won't flush backlog,
> instead simply waiting for all skbs to get transmitted.
> At least this is not user-triggerable, and
> this was not reported in practice, my assumption is
> other devices besides tap complete an skb
> within finite time after it has been queued.
> 
> A possible solution for the second issue
> would not to have socket reference the device,
> instead, implement dev->destructor for tun, and
> wait for all skbs to complete there, but this
> needs some thought, probably too risky for 2.6.34.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Tested-by: Yan Vugenfirer <yvugenfi@redhat.com>

Acked-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>

Thanks,
-- 
Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/
Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
	David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:12:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100413151238.GA13153@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413145944.GA7716@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 05:59:44PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> The following situation was observed in the field:
> tap1 sends packets, tap2 does not consume them, as a result
> tap1 can not be closed. This happens because
> tun/tap devices can hang on to skbs undefinitely.
> 
> As noted by Herbert, possible solutions include a timeout followed by a
> copy/change of ownership of the skb, or always copying/changing
> ownership if we're going into a hostile device.
> 
> This patch implements the second approach.
> 
> Note: one issue still remaining is that since skbs
> keep reference to tun socket and tun socket has a
> reference to tun device, we won't flush backlog,
> instead simply waiting for all skbs to get transmitted.
> At least this is not user-triggerable, and
> this was not reported in practice, my assumption is
> other devices besides tap complete an skb
> within finite time after it has been queued.
> 
> A possible solution for the second issue
> would not to have socket reference the device,
> instead, implement dev->destructor for tun, and
> wait for all skbs to complete there, but this
> needs some thought, probably too risky for 2.6.34.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Tested-by: Yan Vugenfirer <yvugenfi@redhat.com>

Acked-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>

Thanks,
-- 
Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/
Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-13 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 14:59 [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 15:12 ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2010-04-13 15:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Herbert Xu
2010-04-13 15:12   ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-13 15:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 15:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 16:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 16:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 16:52     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 16:52       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 17:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 17:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 18:31       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 18:31         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:25           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:38           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-13 20:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-13 20:43               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14  0:58         ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-14  0:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Herbert Xu
2010-04-14  0:58           ` Herbert Xu
2010-04-14 11:55           ` David Miller
2010-04-14 11:55             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2010-04-14 11:55             ` David Miller
2015-02-01 11:20           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 11:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 12:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-02-01 12:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-02-01 13:33               ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 13:33                 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 20:19                 ` David Miller
2015-02-01 20:19                   ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-01 21:29                   ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-01 21:29                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  5:07                     ` David Miller
2015-02-02  5:07                       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-02  5:07                       ` David Miller
2015-02-02  7:27                       ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  7:27                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02  8:24                         ` Steffen Klassert
2015-02-02  8:24                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Steffen Klassert
2015-02-02 15:30                           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:30                             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:23                         ` Phil Sutter
2015-02-02 15:23                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Phil Sutter
2015-02-02 15:47                           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-02 15:47                             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2015-02-04  0:19                         ` David Miller
2015-02-04  0:19                           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2015-02-04  6:35                           ` David Woodhouse
2015-02-04  6:35                             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Woodhouse
2021-06-25 15:56                       ` Bringing the SSL VPN data path back in-kernel David Woodhouse
2010-04-21 11:35 ` [PATCH] tun: orphan an skb on tx Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:46   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-21 11:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-04-21 11:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 19:16   ` [stable] " Greg KH
2010-04-21 19:16     ` [Qemu-devel] " Greg KH
2010-09-14 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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