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From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] gpiolib: Add gpio name information to /sys/kernel/debug/gpio
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:49:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438339784.20618.21.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150731085407.GO28535@localhost>

Am Freitag, den 31.07.2015, 10:54 +0200 schrieb Johan Hovold:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:08:42AM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:58:42AM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:32:50AM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:
> > > > Add some information about gpio names to the debugfs gpio file. name and
> > > > label of a GPIO are then displayed next to each other. This way it is
> > > > easy to see what the real name of GPIO is and what the driver requested
> > > > it for.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c | 11 ++++++++---
> > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c b/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > index dcac3bcf21dd..0f1d1f5faf5d 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > @@ -2308,14 +2308,19 @@ static void gpiolib_dbg_show(struct seq_file *s, struct gpio_chip *chip)
> > > >  	int			is_irq;
> > > >  
> > > >  	for (i = 0; i < chip->ngpio; i++, gpio++, gdesc++) {
> > > > -		if (!test_bit(FLAG_REQUESTED, &gdesc->flags))
> > > > +		if (!test_bit(FLAG_REQUESTED, &gdesc->flags)) {
> > > > +			if (gdesc->name) {
> > > > +				seq_printf(s, " gpio-%-3d (%-20.20s)\n",
> > > > +					   gpio, gdesc->name);
> > > > +			}
> > > 
> > > So now we'd no longer just be listing requested gpios, but on a similar
> > > format to how requested ones used to be represented.
> > 
> > Better suggestions on how to display those extra information in debugfs?
> 
> Perhaps a new file only listing the line names.
> 
> > > Then there's the debugfs as ABI discussion...
> > 
> > I didn't consider debugfs as ABI as I thought it is just for debugging
> > purposes?
> 
> Some people seem to have expressed a different position:
> 
> 	"The fact that something is documented (whether correctly or
>         not) has absolutely _zero_ impact on anything at all. What makes
>         something an ABI is that it's useful and available. The only way
>         something isn't an ABI is by _explicitly_ making sure that it's
>         not available even by mistake in a stable form for binary use.
> 
>         Example: kernel internal data structures and function calls. We
>         make sure that you simply _cannot_ make a binary that works
>         across kernel versions. That is the only way for an ABI to not
>         form."
> 
>         https://lwn.net/Articles/309298/

Assuming debugfs is ABI is completely backwards. debugfs makes no ABI
guarantees, that's why stuff that needs a stable ABI like tracing is
actively moving out of debugfs into other places, where ABI stability
can be assumed.

Regards,
Lucas 

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.             | Lucas Stach                 |
Industrial Linux Solutions   | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: l.stach@pengutronix.de (Lucas Stach)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 9/9] gpiolib: Add gpio name information to /sys/kernel/debug/gpio
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:49:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438339784.20618.21.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150731085407.GO28535@localhost>

Am Freitag, den 31.07.2015, 10:54 +0200 schrieb Johan Hovold:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:08:42AM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:58:42AM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:32:50AM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:
> > > > Add some information about gpio names to the debugfs gpio file. name and
> > > > label of a GPIO are then displayed next to each other. This way it is
> > > > easy to see what the real name of GPIO is and what the driver requested
> > > > it for.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c | 11 ++++++++---
> > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c b/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > index dcac3bcf21dd..0f1d1f5faf5d 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c
> > > > @@ -2308,14 +2308,19 @@ static void gpiolib_dbg_show(struct seq_file *s, struct gpio_chip *chip)
> > > >  	int			is_irq;
> > > >  
> > > >  	for (i = 0; i < chip->ngpio; i++, gpio++, gdesc++) {
> > > > -		if (!test_bit(FLAG_REQUESTED, &gdesc->flags))
> > > > +		if (!test_bit(FLAG_REQUESTED, &gdesc->flags)) {
> > > > +			if (gdesc->name) {
> > > > +				seq_printf(s, " gpio-%-3d (%-20.20s)\n",
> > > > +					   gpio, gdesc->name);
> > > > +			}
> > > 
> > > So now we'd no longer just be listing requested gpios, but on a similar
> > > format to how requested ones used to be represented.
> > 
> > Better suggestions on how to display those extra information in debugfs?
> 
> Perhaps a new file only listing the line names.
> 
> > > Then there's the debugfs as ABI discussion...
> > 
> > I didn't consider debugfs as ABI as I thought it is just for debugging
> > purposes?
> 
> Some people seem to have expressed a different position:
> 
> 	"The fact that something is documented (whether correctly or
>         not) has absolutely _zero_ impact on anything at all. What makes
>         something an ABI is that it's useful and available. The only way
>         something isn't an ABI is by _explicitly_ making sure that it's
>         not available even by mistake in a stable form for binary use.
> 
>         Example: kernel internal data structures and function calls. We
>         make sure that you simply _cannot_ make a binary that works
>         across kernel versions. That is the only way for an ABI to not
>         form."
> 
>         https://lwn.net/Articles/309298/

Assuming debugfs is ABI is completely backwards. debugfs makes no ABI
guarantees, that's why stuff that needs a stable ABI like tracing is
actively moving out of debugfs into other places, where ABI stability
can be assumed.

Regards,
Lucas 

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.             | Lucas Stach                 |
Industrial Linux Solutions   | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-17  9:32 [PATCH 0/9] gpiolib: Add GPIO name support Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 1/9] gpiolib: Fix possible use of wrong name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:03   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:03     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:46     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:46       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 2/9] gpiolib-of: Rename gpio_hog functions to be generic Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] gpio: Allow hogged gpios to be requested Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17 20:27   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-17 20:27     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-19 14:01     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-19 14:01       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-20  6:32       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-20  6:32         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-20  7:51         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-20  7:51           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:17       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:17         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:52         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:52           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-08-10  9:20         ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-10  9:20           ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 4/9] gpio: Add 'name' to the gpio descriptor struct Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:24   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:24     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 5/9] gpiolib: Implement gpio_name_to_desc() Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 6/9] gpiolib-of: Reuse 'line-name' from DT as gpio descriptor name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:31   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:31     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:52     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:52       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 7/9] gpiolib-sysfs: Add gpio name parsing for sysfs export Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:50   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:50     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:57     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:57       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31  8:44       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  8:44         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] gpiolib-sysfs: Show gpio-name in /sys/class/gpio/gpio*/name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:53   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:53     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  7:02     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  7:02       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 9/9] gpiolib: Add gpio name information to /sys/kernel/debug/gpio Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:58   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:58     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  7:08     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  7:08       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31  8:54       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  8:54         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:41         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:41           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:45           ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:45             ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:49         ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2015-07-31 10:49           ` Lucas Stach
2015-07-17 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] gpiolib: Add GPIO name support Linus Walleij
2015-07-17 20:05   ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-21  9:00   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-07-21  9:00     ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-07-21  9:54     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-21  9:54       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-21 10:10       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-21 10:10         ` Markus Pargmann
     [not found]         ` <CAGmoSHt0Kg-cxe3U6uV40=ttmFbDruRcJZNxtmSZ=gmZQN5fTw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-07-31  9:49           ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  9:49             ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:42             ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:42               ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28 14:16   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28 14:16     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  9:23     ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  9:23       ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-31  9:40       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  9:40         ` Johan Hovold

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