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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Markus Pargmann" <mpa@pengutronix.de>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] gpio: Allow hogged gpios to be requested
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:20:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdbHwCNttDCEUyYq_5REh1PDuR__XDeLD0mR6NqfO6h_HA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150728091753.GJ28535@localhost>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:01:42PM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:

>> > I don't like this patch. IMHO hogging is a "use" of a GPIO that should
>> > prevent it being requested.
>>
>> I disagree with you here. The original patch stated in its description
>> that it was designed to initialize GPIOs. In my understanding this does
>> not necessarily mean that a hogged GPIO has to be blocked forever.
>
> IIRC, this use case was discussed but was rejected by Linus when hogs
> were added:
>
>         https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CACRpkdZcNcPBYQM438CZJx1gYst9BFBSTj-3Qv2aPGF9pdWa5g@mail.gmail.com
>
> Linus?

Yeah that is true. But maybe I softened up a bit.

Basically I want to avoid having two very similar mechanisms.

But that is maybe more of a question of how the code is
arranged and named than what it is called. It would be nicer
if this was referring to initial values rather than hogging,
the mechanism inside the kernel could be the same.

But then there is the path where something that is initially
a hog is turned into a userspace GPIO. Then it is essentially
not a hog anymore, so this property is not static.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

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From: linus.walleij@linaro.org (Linus Walleij)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/9] gpio: Allow hogged gpios to be requested
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:20:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdbHwCNttDCEUyYq_5REh1PDuR__XDeLD0mR6NqfO6h_HA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150728091753.GJ28535@localhost>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:01:42PM +0200, Markus Pargmann wrote:

>> > I don't like this patch. IMHO hogging is a "use" of a GPIO that should
>> > prevent it being requested.
>>
>> I disagree with you here. The original patch stated in its description
>> that it was designed to initialize GPIOs. In my understanding this does
>> not necessarily mean that a hogged GPIO has to be blocked forever.
>
> IIRC, this use case was discussed but was rejected by Linus when hogs
> were added:
>
>         https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CACRpkdZcNcPBYQM438CZJx1gYst9BFBSTj-3Qv2aPGF9pdWa5g at mail.gmail.com
>
> Linus?

Yeah that is true. But maybe I softened up a bit.

Basically I want to avoid having two very similar mechanisms.

But that is maybe more of a question of how the code is
arranged and named than what it is called. It would be nicer
if this was referring to initial values rather than hogging,
the mechanism inside the kernel could be the same.

But then there is the path where something that is initially
a hog is turned into a userspace GPIO. Then it is essentially
not a hog anymore, so this property is not static.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-10  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-17  9:32 [PATCH 0/9] gpiolib: Add GPIO name support Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 1/9] gpiolib: Fix possible use of wrong name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:03   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:03     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:46     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:46       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 2/9] gpiolib-of: Rename gpio_hog functions to be generic Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] gpio: Allow hogged gpios to be requested Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17 20:27   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-17 20:27     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-19 14:01     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-19 14:01       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-20  6:32       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-20  6:32         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-20  7:51         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-20  7:51           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:17       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:17         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:52         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:52           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-08-10  9:20         ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2015-08-10  9:20           ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 4/9] gpio: Add 'name' to the gpio descriptor struct Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:24   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:24     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 5/9] gpiolib: Implement gpio_name_to_desc() Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 6/9] gpiolib-of: Reuse 'line-name' from DT as gpio descriptor name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:31   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:31     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:52     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:52       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 7/9] gpiolib-sysfs: Add gpio name parsing for sysfs export Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:50   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:50     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  6:57     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  6:57       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31  8:44       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  8:44         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] gpiolib-sysfs: Show gpio-name in /sys/class/gpio/gpio*/name Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:53   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:53     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  7:02     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  7:02       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32 ` [PATCH 9/9] gpiolib: Add gpio name information to /sys/kernel/debug/gpio Markus Pargmann
2015-07-17  9:32   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28  9:58   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28  9:58     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  7:08     ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-29  7:08       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31  8:54       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  8:54         ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:41         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:41           ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:45           ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:45             ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:49         ` Lucas Stach
2015-07-31 10:49           ` Lucas Stach
2015-07-17 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] gpiolib: Add GPIO name support Linus Walleij
2015-07-17 20:05   ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-21  9:00   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-07-21  9:00     ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-07-21  9:54     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-21  9:54       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-21 10:10       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-21 10:10         ` Markus Pargmann
     [not found]         ` <CAGmoSHt0Kg-cxe3U6uV40=ttmFbDruRcJZNxtmSZ=gmZQN5fTw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-07-31  9:49           ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  9:49             ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31 10:42             ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-31 10:42               ` Markus Pargmann
2015-07-28 14:16   ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-28 14:16     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-29  9:23     ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  9:23       ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-31  9:40       ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-31  9:40         ` Johan Hovold

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