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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mempool vs. page allocator interaction
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:39:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1468831164-26621-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org> (raw)

Hi,
there have been two issues identified when investigating dm-crypt
backed swap recently [1]. The first one looks like a regression from
f9054c70d28b ("mm, mempool: only set __GFP_NOMEMALLOC if there are free
elements") because swapout path can now deplete all the available memory
reserves. The first patch tries to address that issue by dropping
__GFP_NOMEMALLOC only to TIF_MEMDIE tasks.

The second issue is that dm writeout path which relies on mempool
allocator gets throttled by the direct reclaim in throttle_vm_writeout
which just makes the whole memory pressure problem even worse. The
patch2 just makes sure that we annotate mempool users to be throttled
less by PF_LESS_THROTTLE flag and prevent from throttle_vm_writeout for
that path. mempool users are usually the IO path and throttle them less
sounds like a reasonable way to go.

I do not have any more complicated dm setup available so I would
appreciate if dm people (CCed) could give these two a try.

Also it would be great to iron out concerns from David. He has posted a
deadlock stack trace [2] which has led to f9054c70d28b which is bio
allocation lockup because the TIF_MEMDIE process cannot make a forward
progress without access to memory reserve. This case should be fixed by
patch 1 AFAICS. There are other potential cases when the stuck mempool
is called from PF_MEMALLOC context and blocks the oom victim indirectly
(over a lock) but I believe those are much less likely and we have the
oom reaper to make a forward progress.

Sorry of pulling the discussion outside of the original email thread
but there were more lines of dicussion there and I felt discussing
particualr solution with its justification has a greater chance of
moving towards a solution. I am sending this as an RFC because this
needs a deep review as there might be other side effects I do not see
(especially about patch 2).

Any comments, suggestions are welcome.

---
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.LRH.2.02.1607111027080.14327@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com
[2] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.10.1607131644590.92037@chino.kir.corp.google.com

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mempool vs. page allocator interaction
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:39:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1468831164-26621-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org> (raw)

Hi,
there have been two issues identified when investigating dm-crypt
backed swap recently [1]. The first one looks like a regression from
f9054c70d28b ("mm, mempool: only set __GFP_NOMEMALLOC if there are free
elements") because swapout path can now deplete all the available memory
reserves. The first patch tries to address that issue by dropping
__GFP_NOMEMALLOC only to TIF_MEMDIE tasks.

The second issue is that dm writeout path which relies on mempool
allocator gets throttled by the direct reclaim in throttle_vm_writeout
which just makes the whole memory pressure problem even worse. The
patch2 just makes sure that we annotate mempool users to be throttled
less by PF_LESS_THROTTLE flag and prevent from throttle_vm_writeout for
that path. mempool users are usually the IO path and throttle them less
sounds like a reasonable way to go.

I do not have any more complicated dm setup available so I would
appreciate if dm people (CCed) could give these two a try.

Also it would be great to iron out concerns from David. He has posted a
deadlock stack trace [2] which has led to f9054c70d28b which is bio
allocation lockup because the TIF_MEMDIE process cannot make a forward
progress without access to memory reserve. This case should be fixed by
patch 1 AFAICS. There are other potential cases when the stuck mempool
is called from PF_MEMALLOC context and blocks the oom victim indirectly
(over a lock) but I believe those are much less likely and we have the
oom reaper to make a forward progress.

Sorry of pulling the discussion outside of the original email thread
but there were more lines of dicussion there and I felt discussing
particualr solution with its justification has a greater chance of
moving towards a solution. I am sending this as an RFC because this
needs a deep review as there might be other side effects I do not see
(especially about patch 2).

Any comments, suggestions are welcome.

---
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.LRH.2.02.1607111027080.14327@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com
[2] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.10.1607131644590.92037@chino.kir.corp.google.com


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             reply	other threads:[~2016-07-18  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-18  8:39 Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-07-18  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mempool vs. page allocator interaction Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, mempool: do not throttle PF_LESS_THROTTLE tasks Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 21:50     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 21:50       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-22  8:46     ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  9:04       ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  9:15       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22  9:15         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-23  0:12         ` NeilBrown
2016-07-25  8:32           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25  8:32             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 19:23             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 19:23               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 19:23               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-26  7:07               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-26  7:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27  3:43             ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 18:24               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 18:24                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 21:33                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-28  7:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28  7:17                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 12:53                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 12:53                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:34                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 14:34                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:49                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-04 18:49                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-12 12:32                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-12 12:32                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-13 17:34                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-13 17:34                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-14 10:34                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-14 10:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-15 16:15                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-15 16:15                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-23 21:11                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-23 21:11                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-24 13:29                                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-24 13:29                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-24 17:10                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-24 17:10                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-28 14:06                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-28 14:06                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 21:52           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-25 21:52             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-26  7:25             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-26  7:25               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27  4:02             ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 14:28               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 14:28                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 18:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 18:40                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 13:59                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 13:59                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 14:42                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-04 18:46                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 21:36                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-19  2:00   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path David Rientjes
2016-07-19  2:00     ` David Rientjes
2016-07-19  7:49     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19  7:49       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 13:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-19 13:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-19 14:19     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 14:19       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 22:01       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 22:01         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 20:45     ` David Rientjes
2016-07-19 20:45       ` David Rientjes
2016-07-20  8:15       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-20  8:15         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-20 21:06         ` David Rientjes
2016-07-20 21:06           ` David Rientjes
2016-07-21  8:52           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21  8:52             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 12:13             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-21 12:13               ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-21 14:53               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 14:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 14:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 15:26                 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-21 15:26                   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-22  1:41                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  6:37                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22  6:37                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22 12:26                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 12:26                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 19:44                     ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-22 19:44                       ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-23 18:52                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-23 18:52                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-19 21:50   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 21:50     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-20  6:44     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-20  6:44       ` Michal Hocko

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