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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: Aw: Re: [PATCH] mlx4: give precise rx/tx bytes/packets counters
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:19:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1480378759.18162.105.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b58286a4-d97f-18dd-e5bd-0f69d3746b81@gmx.de>

On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 23:02 +0100, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> On 25.11.2016 20:19, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 17:30 +0100, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > The READ_ONCE() are documenting the fact that no lock is taken to fetch
> >> > the stats, while another cpus might being changing them.
> >> > 
> >> > I had no answer yet from https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/698449/
> >> > 
> >> > So I thought it was not needed to explain this in the changelog, given
> >> > that it apparently is one of the few things that can block someone to
> >> > understand one of my changes :/
> >> > 
> >> > Apparently nobody really understands READ_ONCE() purpose, it is really a
> >> > pity we have to explain this over and over.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Even at the risk of showing once more a lack of understanding for
> >> READ_ONCE():
> >> Does not a READ_ONCE() have to e paired with some kind of
> >> WRITE_ONCE()? 
> > 
> > You are right.
> > 
> > Although in this case, the producers are using a lock, and do
> > 
> > ring->packets++;
> > 
> > We hopefully have compilers/cpus that do not put intermediate garbage in
> > ring->packets while doing the increment.
> > 
> > One problem with :
> > 
> > WRITE_ONCE(ring->packets, ring->packets + 1);
> > 
> > is that gcc no longer uses an INC instruction.
> 
> I see. So we would have to do something like
> 
> tmp = ring->packets;
> tmp++;
> WRITE_ONCE(ring->packets, tmp);


Well, gcc will generate a code with more instructions than a mere 

"inc  offset(%register)"


Which is kind of unfortunate, given it is the fast path.

Better add a comment, like :

/* We should use WRITE_ONCE() to pair with the READ_ONCE() found in xxxx()
 * But gcc would generate non optimal code.
 */

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-25 15:46 [PATCH] mlx4: give precise rx/tx bytes/packets counters Eric Dumazet
2016-11-25 16:03 ` David Laight
2016-11-25 16:16   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-25 16:30     ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-25 19:19       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-28 22:02         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-29  0:19           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2016-11-30 15:28             ` David Laight
2016-11-30 15:47               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-26 22:47 ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-11-27  2:16   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-28 20:40     ` David Miller
2016-11-28 21:55       ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-11-28 22:57         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-29 18:37 ` David Miller
2016-11-30 14:08 ` Regression: " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-11-30 15:58   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-30 16:46     ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-11-30 17:35       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-30 20:42         ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-11-30 21:00           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-01 12:37             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-01 13:02               ` [PATCH net-next] mlx4: fix use-after-free in mlx4_en_fold_software_stats() Eric Dumazet
2016-12-01 15:23                 ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-12-02 18:36                 ` David Miller
2016-12-01 15:38             ` Regression: [PATCH] mlx4: give precise rx/tx bytes/packets counters Saeed Mahameed
2016-12-01 15:55               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-01 16:08                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-01 17:36                   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-04 13:23                     ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-12-01 16:33                 ` Saeed Mahameed
2016-12-01 17:08                   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-04 13:21                     ` Saeed Mahameed

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