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From: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Qemu Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
	Nitesh Narayan Lal <nilal@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <161871630.19945909.1507847948038.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1507847249.21121.207.camel@redhat.com>

> > > > 
> > > > > >   This patch adds virtio-pmem driver for KVM guest.
> > > > > >   Guest reads the persistent memory range information
> > > > > >   over virtio bus from Qemu and reserves the range
> > > > > >   as persistent memory. Guest also allocates a block
> > > > > >   device corresponding to the pmem range which later
> > > > > >   can be accessed with DAX compatible file systems.
> > > > > >   Idea is to use the virtio channel between guest and
> > > > > >   host to perform the block device flush for guest pmem
> > > > > >   DAX device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   There is work to do including DAX file system support
> > > > > >   and other advanced features.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Kconfig           |  10 ++
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Makefile          |   1 +
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c     | 322
> > > > > >  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h |  55 +++++++
> > > > > >  4 files changed, 388 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > index cff773f15b7e..0192c4bda54b 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > @@ -38,6 +38,16 @@ config VIRTIO_PCI_LEGACY
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           If unsure, say Y.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > +config VIRTIO_PMEM
> > > > > > +       tristate "Virtio pmem driver"
> > > > > > +       depends on VIRTIO
> > > > > > +       ---help---
> > > > > > +        This driver adds persistent memory range within a
> > > > > > KVM guest.
> 
> With "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" we could name the config
> option VIRTIO_BLOCK_PMEM
> 
> The documentation text could make it clear to people that the
> image shows up as a disk image on the host, but as a pmem
> memory range in the guest.

yes, this looks better. 
thank you.

> 
> > > > > I think we need to call this something other than persistent
> > > > > memory to
> > > > > make it clear that this not memory where the persistence can be
> > > > > managed from userspace. The persistence point always requires
> > > > > 
> > > So currently /proc/iomem in a guest with a pmem device attached to
> > > a
> > > namespace looks like this:
> > > 
> > >     c00000000-13bfffffff : Persistent Memory
> > >        c00000000-13bfffffff : namespace2.0
> > > 
> > > Can we call it "Virtio Shared Memory" to make it clear it is a
> > > different beast than typical "Persistent Memory"?  You can likely
> > 
> > I think somewhere we need persistent keyword 'Virtio Persistent
> > Memory' or
> > so.
> 
> Still hoping for better ideas than "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" :)

:-)
> 

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From: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Qemu Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
	Nitesh Narayan Lal <nilal@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <161871630.19945909.1507847948038.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1507847249.21121.207.camel@redhat.com>

> > > > 
> > > > > >   This patch adds virtio-pmem driver for KVM guest.
> > > > > >   Guest reads the persistent memory range information
> > > > > >   over virtio bus from Qemu and reserves the range
> > > > > >   as persistent memory. Guest also allocates a block
> > > > > >   device corresponding to the pmem range which later
> > > > > >   can be accessed with DAX compatible file systems.
> > > > > >   Idea is to use the virtio channel between guest and
> > > > > >   host to perform the block device flush for guest pmem
> > > > > >   DAX device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   There is work to do including DAX file system support
> > > > > >   and other advanced features.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Kconfig           |  10 ++
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Makefile          |   1 +
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c     | 322
> > > > > >  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h |  55 +++++++
> > > > > >  4 files changed, 388 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > index cff773f15b7e..0192c4bda54b 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > @@ -38,6 +38,16 @@ config VIRTIO_PCI_LEGACY
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           If unsure, say Y.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > +config VIRTIO_PMEM
> > > > > > +       tristate "Virtio pmem driver"
> > > > > > +       depends on VIRTIO
> > > > > > +       ---help---
> > > > > > +        This driver adds persistent memory range within a
> > > > > > KVM guest.
> 
> With "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" we could name the config
> option VIRTIO_BLOCK_PMEM
> 
> The documentation text could make it clear to people that the
> image shows up as a disk image on the host, but as a pmem
> memory range in the guest.

yes, this looks better. 
thank you.

> 
> > > > > I think we need to call this something other than persistent
> > > > > memory to
> > > > > make it clear that this not memory where the persistence can be
> > > > > managed from userspace. The persistence point always requires
> > > > > 
> > > So currently /proc/iomem in a guest with a pmem device attached to
> > > a
> > > namespace looks like this:
> > > 
> > >     c00000000-13bfffffff : Persistent Memory
> > >        c00000000-13bfffffff : namespace2.0
> > > 
> > > Can we call it "Virtio Shared Memory" to make it clear it is a
> > > different beast than typical "Persistent Memory"?  You can likely
> > 
> > I think somewhere we need persistent keyword 'Virtio Persistent
> > Memory' or
> > so.
> 
> Still hoping for better ideas than "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" :)

:-)
> 

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From: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Qemu Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
	Nitesh Narayan Lal <nilal@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <161871630.19945909.1507847948038.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1507847249.21121.207.camel@redhat.com>

> > > > 
> > > > > >   This patch adds virtio-pmem driver for KVM guest.
> > > > > >   Guest reads the persistent memory range information
> > > > > >   over virtio bus from Qemu and reserves the range
> > > > > >   as persistent memory. Guest also allocates a block
> > > > > >   device corresponding to the pmem range which later
> > > > > >   can be accessed with DAX compatible file systems.
> > > > > >   Idea is to use the virtio channel between guest and
> > > > > >   host to perform the block device flush for guest pmem
> > > > > >   DAX device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   There is work to do including DAX file system support
> > > > > >   and other advanced features.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Kconfig           |  10 ++
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/Makefile          |   1 +
> > > > > >  drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c     | 322
> > > > > >  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h |  55 +++++++
> > > > > >  4 files changed, 388 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > index cff773f15b7e..0192c4bda54b 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > @@ -38,6 +38,16 @@ config VIRTIO_PCI_LEGACY
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           If unsure, say Y.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > +config VIRTIO_PMEM
> > > > > > +       tristate "Virtio pmem driver"
> > > > > > +       depends on VIRTIO
> > > > > > +       ---help---
> > > > > > +        This driver adds persistent memory range within a
> > > > > > KVM guest.
> 
> With "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" we could name the config
> option VIRTIO_BLOCK_PMEM
> 
> The documentation text could make it clear to people that the
> image shows up as a disk image on the host, but as a pmem
> memory range in the guest.

yes, this looks better. 
thank you.

> 
> > > > > I think we need to call this something other than persistent
> > > > > memory to
> > > > > make it clear that this not memory where the persistence can be
> > > > > managed from userspace. The persistence point always requires
> > > > > 
> > > So currently /proc/iomem in a guest with a pmem device attached to
> > > a
> > > namespace looks like this:
> > > 
> > >     c00000000-13bfffffff : Persistent Memory
> > >        c00000000-13bfffffff : namespace2.0
> > > 
> > > Can we call it "Virtio Shared Memory" to make it clear it is a
> > > different beast than typical "Persistent Memory"?  You can likely
> > 
> > I think somewhere we need persistent keyword 'Virtio Persistent
> > Memory' or
> > so.
> 
> Still hoping for better ideas than "Virtio Block Backed Pmem" :)

:-)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-12 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12 15:50 [RFC 0/2] KVM "fake DAX" device flushing Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [RFC 1/2] pmem: Move reusable code to base header files Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50   ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 20:42   ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 20:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-12 20:42     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:27     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 21:27       ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found] ` <20171012155027.3277-1-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-12 15:50   ` [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50     ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50     ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 20:51     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 20:51       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-12 20:51       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:25       ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 21:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 21:25         ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 21:54         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:54           ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:54           ` Dan Williams
     [not found]           ` <CAPcyv4gkri7t+3Unf0sc9AHMnz-v9G_qV_bJppLjUUNAn7drrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-12 22:18             ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:18               ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:18               ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:18               ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:27               ` Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:27                 ` Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:27                 ` Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:27                 ` Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:39                 ` Pankaj Gupta [this message]
2017-10-12 22:39                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:39                   ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:52                 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:52                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:52                   ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:59                   ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 22:59                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-12 22:59                     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 23:07                     ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 23:07                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 23:07                       ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-13  9:44     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-13  9:44       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-13  9:44       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-13 10:48       ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-13 10:48         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-13 10:48         ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]         ` <24301306.20068579.1507891695416.JavaMail.zimbra-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-16 14:47           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-16 14:47             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-16 14:47             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-16 14:47             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-16 15:58             ` Dan Williams
2017-10-16 15:58               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-16 15:58               ` Dan Williams
2017-10-16 17:04             ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-16 17:04               ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-16 17:04               ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]       ` <20171013094431.GA27308-lxVrvc10SDRcolVlb+j0YCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 15:25         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13 15:25           ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2017-10-13 15:25           ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13 15:25           ` Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <20171012155027.3277-3-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17  7:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  7:16         ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  7:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  7:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  7:40         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-17  7:40           ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-17  8:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  8:02             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17  8:30             ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-17  8:30               ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-18 13:03               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-18 13:03                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-18 15:51                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-18 15:51                   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                   ` <CAPcyv4h6aFkyHhh4R4DTznbSCLf9CuBoszk0Q1gB5EKNcp_SeQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19  8:01                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-19  8:01                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-19  8:01                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-19  8:01                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-19  8:01                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20171019080149.GB10089-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 18:21                       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-19 18:21                         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-19 18:21                         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                         ` <CAPcyv4j=Cdp68C15HddKaErpve2UGRfSTiL6bHiS=3gQybz9pg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-20  8:00                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20  8:00                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20  8:00                             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                             ` <20171020080049.GA25471-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-20 15:05                               ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 15:05                                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 15:05                                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 16:06                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 16:06                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 16:11                                   ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 16:11                                     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [RFC] QEMU: Add virtio pmem device Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50   ` Pankaj Gupta

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