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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/15] perf_counter: provide generic callchain bits
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:45:33 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18899.10669.917693.67352@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238572744.8530.2541.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra writes:

> Ah, yes, I see how that can confuse. PERF_EVENT_COUNTER_OVERFLOW then?

Sounds reasonable.

> > Also, let's add PERF_RECORD/PERF_EVENT bits for:
> > 
> > * EVENT_INSTR_ADDR
> 
> I'm failing to come up with what this could be..

So, you have lots of instructions in flight in the processor, and one
of them causes an event that increments a counter and causes it to
overflow, so an interrupt request is generated.  Even if the interrupt
is taken "immediately", it can still happen that the set of
instructions the processor decides to complete before taking the
interrupt includes some instructions after the instruction that caused
the counter to overflow, and of course if interrupts are (hard-)
disabled at the time of the overflow, the interrupt will happen
later.  That means that the IP from the pt_regs is not generally a
reliable indication of which instruction made the counter overflow.

On POWER processors we have a register which gives us a much more
reliable indication of which instruction caused the counter overflow,
at least in those cases where the event can be attributed to a
specific instruction.  This EVENT_INSTR_ADDR bit would ask for that
register to be sampled and recorded.

> > * EVENT_DATA_ADDR
> 
> This would be the data address operated upon? Like what address caused
> the fault/cache-miss, etc?

That's right.  POWER processors have a register that records that
where possible.

> > * EVENT_INSTR_FLAGS
> 
> Again not quite sure what this would be.

POWER processors have a register that records information about the
instruction that caused the counter overflow, such as did it have a
data address associated with it, did it cause a dcache miss, etc.

> > * EVENT_CPU_FLAGS	(so we can distinguish hypervisor/kernel/user)
> 
> Currently we can based on address, an IP < 0 is kernel and > 0 is
> userspace, but yeah, I see how this makes life easier.

We can't distinguish hypervisor addresses that way, and on some
architectures (including x86_32 with a 4G/4G split) we can't
distinguish kernel/user just by the address.  I was thinking the cpu
flags would also include things like interrupt enable state, FPU
enable state, etc.

> > We would have to call into arch code to get the values for these.
> 
> I suppose all these things can be gleaned from pt_regs, so that should
> be doable.

Hmmm, 3 of the 4 would require SPR (= what x86 calls MSR) reads.
Maybe it's best to have a block of arch-specific bits that can be
defined per-arch and implemented in arch code.

Paul.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-01  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-30 17:07 [PATCH 00/15] pending perf_counter bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 01/15] perf_counter: unify and fix delayed counter wakeup Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  5:45   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  6:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  9:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 10:12   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 02/15] perf_counter: fix update_userpage() Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:12   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 03/15] perf_counter: kerneltop: simplify data_head read Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 04/15] perf_counter: executable mmap() information Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 05/15] perf_counter: kerneltop: parse the mmap data stream Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 06/15] perf_counter: powerpc: only reserve PMU hardware when we need it Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 07/15] perf_counter: make it possible for hw_perf_counter_init to return error codes Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 08/15] perf_counter: x86: proper error propagation for the x86 hw_perf_counter_init() Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 09/15] perf_counter tools: optionally scale counter values in perfstat mode Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  9:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 10:50     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 10/15] perf_counter: small cleanup of the output routines Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 11/15] perf_counter: re-arrange the perf_event_type Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 12/15] pref_counter: kerneltop: update event_types Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] perf_counter tools: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 13/15] perf_counter: provide generic callchain bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  6:12   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  6:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  7:24       ` Corey Ashford
2009-03-31  8:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  9:09           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  9:12         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31 14:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31 17:11             ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-01  3:48             ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01  7:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  8:45                 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2009-04-01 10:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 11:53                     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01 23:25                 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02  6:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  7:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:10                       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02  9:14                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 14/15] perf_counter: x86: callchain support Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 15/15] perf_counter: pmc arbitration Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:15   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  5:43 ` [PATCH 00/15] pending perf_counter bits Paul Mackerras

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