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From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/15] perf_counter: provide generic callchain bits
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:24:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D1C544.7020403@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238481552.28248.1384.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 17:12 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra writes:
>>
>>>  				include_tid    :  1, /* include the tid       */
>>>  				mmap           :  1, /* include mmap data     */
>>>  				munmap         :  1, /* include munmap data   */
>>> +				callchain      :  1, /* add callchain data    */
>> Interesting, I would have put callchain (and include_tid, also) in
>> hw_event.record_type rather than as individual 1-bit fields.  The
>> present arrangement where some selection of what goes into the ring
>> buffer is in record_type and some is in individual bits seems a bit
>> awkward.  Plus, with the current arrangement I can't get both the IP
>> and the values of the other group members, which I might reasonable
>> want.
>>
>> I think either we make record_type bit-significant, or we define
>> individual bits in hw_event for recording the IP and other group
>> members.
>>
>> There are a couple of other things I want to be able to record on an
>> event - we have registers on powerpc that give information about the
>> event that caused the interrupt, and it would be nice to be able to
>> record them.  (These registers include instruction and data addresses
>> associated with the event; the instruction address can be further on
>> from where the interrupt was taken because of out-of-order instruction
>> execution and because interrupts might be hard-disabled at the point
>> where the interrupt becomes pending.)
>>
>> Those registers would need bits in record_type or in the hw_event to
>> indicate that we want them recorded.
> 
> Sure, I'm fine with moving them to record_type and making that a bit
> field. I've also considered merging the group and 'simple' output to
> enable what you say.

Originally, the record_type field was used to determine what would be 
read if you read from the fd.  However, now it seems to be what you get 
from the mmap buffer (only), that there is no longer a way to read the 
record stream from the fd anymore. Is this true?  If so, I like this 
idea because it simplifies the ABI: there is one way to read the current 
value of counters and another way to read sample records (via mmap), 
both of these operations use a single fd.

If this is the case, what is the exact meaning of PERF_COUNTER_SIMPLE 
now? and PERF_COUNTER_GROUP?  One simplification would be that reading 
the fd of a group leader would always read up all of the counters in the 
group (along with their enabled and running times if those bits are 
set), and that reading a single counter's fd would yield only that 
counter's values and times (if enabled).  In effect, these two values, 
PERF_COUNTER_GROUP and PERF_COUNTER_SIMPLE would no longer be necessary 
at all.  Other bits would be used to determine what's in the mmap'd samples.

- Corey



  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-31  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-30 17:07 [PATCH 00/15] pending perf_counter bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 01/15] perf_counter: unify and fix delayed counter wakeup Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  5:45   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  6:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  9:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 10:12   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 02/15] perf_counter: fix update_userpage() Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:12   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 03/15] perf_counter: kerneltop: simplify data_head read Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 04/15] perf_counter: executable mmap() information Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 05/15] perf_counter: kerneltop: parse the mmap data stream Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 06/15] perf_counter: powerpc: only reserve PMU hardware when we need it Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 07/15] perf_counter: make it possible for hw_perf_counter_init to return error codes Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 08/15] perf_counter: x86: proper error propagation for the x86 hw_perf_counter_init() Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:13   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 09/15] perf_counter tools: optionally scale counter values in perfstat mode Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  9:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 10:50     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 10/15] perf_counter: small cleanup of the output routines Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 11/15] perf_counter: re-arrange the perf_event_type Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 12/15] pref_counter: kerneltop: update event_types Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] perf_counter tools: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 13/15] perf_counter: provide generic callchain bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  6:12   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  6:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  7:24       ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2009-03-31  8:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  9:09           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31  9:12         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-31 14:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31 17:11             ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-01  3:48             ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01  7:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01  8:45                 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01 10:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 11:53                     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-01 23:25                 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02  6:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  7:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:10                       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02  9:14                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 14/15] perf_counter: x86: callchain support Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:14   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30 17:07 ` [PATCH 15/15] perf_counter: pmc arbitration Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-01 10:15   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-31  5:43 ` [PATCH 00/15] pending perf_counter bits Paul Mackerras

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