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From: Julien Grall <Julien.Grall@arm.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Davorin Mista <dm@aggios.com>,
	Andre Przywara <Andre.Przywara@arm.com>,
	Saeed Nowshadi <saeed.nowshadi@xilinx.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	Mirela Simonovic <mirela.simonovic@aggios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/18] xen/arm: Save GIC and virtual timer context when the domain suspends
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 23:39:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bc18b94-cb14-5d9f-514c-34b0f86442b7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1811141444480.302@sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260>



On 14/11/2018 22:45, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Julien Grall wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 13/11/2018 20:44, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>> (+ Andre)
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/18 5:42 PM, Mirela Simonovic wrote:
>>>>> Hi Julien,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:00 PM Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/12/18 4:52 PM, Mirela Simonovic wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Julien,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 4:36 PM Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mirela,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/12/18 11:30 AM, Mirela Simonovic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> GIC and virtual timer context must be saved when the domain
>>>>>>>>> suspends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please provide the rationale for this. Is it required by the spec?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is required for GIC because a guest leaves enabled interrupts
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the GIC that could wake it up, and on resume it should be able to
>>>>>>> detect which interrupt woke it up. Without saving/restoring the
>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>> of GIC this would not be possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am confused. In patch #10, you save the GIC host because the GIC can
>>>>>> be powered-down. Linux is also saving the GIC state. So how the
>>>>>> interrupt can come up if the GIC is powered down?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After Xen (or Linux in the config without Xen) hands over the control
>>>>> to EL3 on suspend (calls system suspend PSCI to EL3), it leaves
>>>>> enabled interrupts that are its wake-up sources. Saving a GIC state
>>>>> only means that its current configuration will be remembered somewhere
>>>>> in data structures, but the configuration is not changed on suspend.
>>>>> Everything that happens with interrupt configuration from this point
>>>>> on is platform specific. Now there are 2 options: 1) EL3 will never
>>>>> allow CPU0 to be powered down and the wake-up interrupt will indeed
>>>>> propagate via GIC;
>>>>> or 2) CPU0 will be powered down and the GIC may be
>>>>> powered down as well, so an external help is needed to deal with
>>>>> wake-up and resume (e.g. in order to react to a wake-up interrupt
>>>>> while the GIC is down, and power up CPU0). This external help is
>>>>> provided by some low-power processor outside of the Cortex-A cluster.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the platform firmware is responsible for properly configuring a
>>>>> wake-up path if GIC goes down. This is commonly handled by EL3
>>>>> communicating with low-power processor. When the GIC power comes up,
>>>>> the interrupt triggered by a peripheral is still active and the
>>>>> software on Cortex-A cluster should be able to observe it once the GIC
>>>>> state is restored, i.e. interrupts get enabled at GIC.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the explanation.  Now the question is why can't we reset at
>>>> least the GIC CPU interface?
>>>>
>>>> AFAIU, the guest should restore them in any case. The only things we need
>>>> to
>>>> know is the interrupt was received for a given guest. We can then queue it
>>>> and
>>>> wake-up the domain.
>>>>
>>>> This seems to fit with the description on top of gic_dist_save() in Linux
>>>> GICv2 driver.
>>>
>>> Can we rely on all PSCI compliant OSes to restore their own GIC again at
>>> resume? The PSCI spec is not very clear in that regard (at the the
>>> version I am looking at...) I am just asking so that we don't come up
>>> with a solution that only works with Linux.
>> See PSCI 1.1 (DEN0022D) section 6.8. Each level should save its own context
>> because the PSCI implementations is allowed to shutdown the GIC.
> 
> Great, in that case we should be able to skip saving some of the GICD
> registers too. We do need to save GICD_ISACTIVER, and GICD_ICFGR,
> but we should be able to skip the others (GICD_ISENABLER,
> GICD_IPRIORITYR, GICD_ITARGETSR). If we do, we still need to
> re-initialize them as we do in gicv2_dist_init.

You are assuming a domain will handle properly the suspend/resume. I 
don't think we can promise that as we call freeze/thaw.

Furthermore, we still have to suspend/resume other drivers in Xen. I 
think this is a bit painful to have to rely on every drivers to deal 
with their interrupts.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-12 11:30 [PATCH 00/18] xen/arm64: Suspend to RAM support for Xen Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 01/18] xen/arm: Move code that initializes VCPU context into a separate function Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:41   ` Jan Beulich
2018-11-12 11:43   ` Wei Liu
2018-11-12 13:15   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 11:45     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 02/18] xen/arm: Implement PSCI system suspend call (virtual interface) Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:42   ` Jan Beulich
2018-11-12 11:50     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 12:45       ` Jan Beulich
2018-11-12 15:27   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 16:35     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 16:41       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-12 19:56         ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13  8:32           ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-14 12:08             ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 12:49               ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15  0:47                 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-15 10:13                   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 10:26                     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-15 10:33                       ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 10:59                         ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 11:10                           ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 11:38                             ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 11:42                               ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 19:30                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-15 20:25                                 ` Julien Grall
2018-11-16 22:10                               ` Dario Faggioli
2018-11-15 10:36                       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 10:36                       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 10:50                         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-13  1:53         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-13  9:41           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 20:39             ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 13:10               ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 23:08                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-12 20:29       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 20:39         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 10:45           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 12:35             ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 13:05               ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 14:48                 ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 15:36                   ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 15:37                     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 15:51                     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 10:23   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 15:09     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 12:44       ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 03/18] xen/arm: Save GIC and virtual timer context when the domain suspends Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 15:36   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 16:52     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 17:00       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 17:42         ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 19:20           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 20:44             ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 10:48               ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 22:45                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 23:39                   ` Julien Grall [this message]
2018-11-15  0:05                     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15  0:35                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-15 20:29                       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 04/18] xen/arm: While a domain is suspended put its watchdogs on pause Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:47   ` Jan Beulich
2018-11-12 15:17     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 15:23       ` Jan Beulich
2018-11-12 15:31         ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 15:33           ` Andrew Cooper
2018-11-16 22:40             ` Dario Faggioli
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 05/18] xen/arm: Trigger Xen suspend when Dom0 completes suspend Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 15:45   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 23:46     ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-13  9:43       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 11:26         ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13 11:42           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 15:07   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 15:40     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 17:10       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 17:35         ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 18:48           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 12:37             ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 18:23   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 19:17     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 20:47       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 06/18] xen/x86: Move freeze/thaw_domains into common files Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13 22:37   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 07/18] xen/arm: Freeze domains on suspend and thaw them on resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 08/18] xen/arm: Disable/enable non-boot physical CPUs on suspend/resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13 22:35   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 12:07     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 10:52   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 13:00     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 13:18       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 23:04         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 23:45           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 18:57             ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-15 21:09               ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 09/18] xen/arm: Add rcu_barrier() before enabling non-boot CPUs on resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13 22:42   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 12:11   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 22:29     ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 10/18] xen/arm: Implement GIC suspend/resume functions (gicv2 only) Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13 23:41   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14  9:13     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 11:57       ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 12:41   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 12:52     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14 13:24       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-14 22:18         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 23:50           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-15 18:26             ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 11/18] xen/arm: Suspend/resume GIC on system suspend/resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 12/18] xen/arm: Suspend/resume timer interrupt generation Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 13/18] xen/arm: Implement PSCI SYSTEM_SUSPEND call (physical interface) Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-14  0:14   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-14 12:03     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 21:20   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 14/18] xen/arm: Convert setting MMU page tables code into a routine Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 15/18] xen/arm: Resume memory management on Xen resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 16:17   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13  1:36     ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-13  9:59       ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 21:35         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-13 22:24           ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 16/18] xen/arm: Save/restore context on suspend/resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 17/18] xen/arm: Resume Dom0 after Xen resumes Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-15 20:31   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-16 10:33     ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-16 11:29       ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-16 11:44         ` Julien Grall
2018-11-16 12:34           ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-16 13:24             ` Julien Grall
2018-11-16 19:03               ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-16 19:09                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-16 21:41                   ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-16 21:58                     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-16 23:01                       ` Dario Faggioli
2018-11-16 23:06                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-17 16:01                           ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-17 16:02                             ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-17 16:19                               ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-27 18:36                             ` Julien Grall
2018-11-29 14:02                               ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-12-04 18:15                                 ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:30 ` [PATCH 18/18] xen/arm: Suspend/resume console on Xen suspend/resume Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-27 18:46   ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 11:37 ` [PATCH 00/18] xen/arm64: Suspend to RAM support for Xen Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 11:49 ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 12:01   ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-12 12:08     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-12 12:35       ` Mirela Simonovic
2018-11-13  2:22   ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-11-13 10:02     ` Julien Grall
2018-11-13 18:06       ` Stefano Stabellini

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