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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	e0206@foo21.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Subject: Re: [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 02:41:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030714014135.GA22769@mail.jlokier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307131542000.15022@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com>

Davide Libenzi wrote:
> Yes, this could be improved though. If we could only pass our event
> interest mask to f_op->poll() the function will be able to register it
> inside the wait queue structure and release only waiters that matches the
> available condition.

It's not a bad idea.

> > And ttys?  They are problematic, because ttys can return EOF _after_
> > returning data without closing (and without being hung-up).  An epoll
> > loop which is reading a tty (and isn't programmed specially for a tty)
> > _must_ receive POLLRDHUP when the EOF is pending, else it may hang.
> 
> Please replace 'it may hung' with 'it may hung if it is using the read()
> return bytes check trick' ;)

Sure - but take an app that is normally using TCP sockets and give it
an AF_UNIX socket..  Something as general as the event loop
_shouldn't_ have to depend on that subtlety.

Ok that's avoidable, but it's a trap.  It would be nice to get a flag
that doesn't have a caveat in the manual saying "this flag only works
(at present) on TCP sockets in kernels >= 2.5.76.  Take care not to
use the optimisation for any other kind of fd including other sockets,
as it will break your app...".  That's not the sort of thing I want to
see in the epoll manual page :)

Anyway, there is a correct answer and I have made the patch so wait
for next mail... :)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-14  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12 18:16 [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-12 20:51   ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 20:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:19       ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 21:20         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:41         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 23:11           ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 23:55             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  1:05               ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-13 20:32       ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 21:10         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  8:14               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 15:03                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:27             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 21:14         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:11             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:52             ` Entrope
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-14  7:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  1:51             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-15 20:27             ` James Antill
2003-07-16  1:46               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-16  2:09                 ` James Antill
2003-07-13 13:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 16:55       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 20:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  5:24   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 17:00       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 19:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:03           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-07-14  2:24               ` POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections) Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:37                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:02                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:16                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:21                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:42                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  4:00                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  5:51                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:24                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  6:57                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:35                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:04                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:27                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14 17:09     ` [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections kuznet
2003-07-14 17:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier

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