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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	e0206@foo21.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Subject: Re: [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:00:38 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307130956530.14680@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030713140758.GF19132@mail.jlokier.co.uk>

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jamie Lokier wrote:

> David S. Miller wrote:
> > Alexey, they seem to want to add some kind of POLLRDHUP thing,
> > comments wrt. TCP and elsewhere in the networking?  See below...
>
> POLLHUP is a mess.  It means different things according to the type of
> fd, precisely because it is considered an unmaskeable event for the
> poll() API so the standard meaning isn't useful for sockets.  (See the
> comments in tcp_poll()).
>
> POLLRDHUP makes sense because it could actually have a well-defined
> meaning: set iff reading the fd would return EOF.
>
> However, if a program is waiting on POLLRDHUP, you don't want the
> program to have to say "if this fd is a TCP socket then listen for
> POLLRDHUP else if this fd is another kind of socket call read to
> detect EOF else listen for POLLHUP".  Programs have enough
> version-specific special cases as it is.
>
> So I suggest:
>
>   - Everywhere that POLLHUP is currently set in a driver, socket etc.
>     it should set POLLRDHUP|POLLHUP - unless it specifically knows
>     about POLLRDHUP as in TCP (and presumably UDP, SCTP etc).

Returning POLLHUP to a caller waiting for POLLIN might break existing code
IMHO. After ppl reporting the O_RDONLY|O_TRUNC case I'm inclined to expect
everything from existing apps ;) POLLHUP should be returned to apps
waiting for POLLOUT while POLLRDHUP to ones for POLLIN.



- Davide


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-13 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12 18:16 [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-12 20:51   ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 20:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:19       ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 21:20         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:41         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 23:11           ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 23:55             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  1:05               ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-13 20:32       ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 21:10         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  8:14               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 15:03                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:27             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 21:14         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:11             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:52             ` Entrope
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-14  7:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  1:51             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-15 20:27             ` James Antill
2003-07-16  1:46               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-16  2:09                 ` James Antill
2003-07-13 13:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 16:55       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 20:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  5:24   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 17:00       ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2003-07-13 19:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:03           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:24               ` POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections) Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:37                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:02                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:16                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:21                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:42                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  4:00                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  5:51                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:24                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  6:57                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:35                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:04                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:27                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14 17:09     ` [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections kuznet
2003-07-14 17:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier

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