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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Eric Varsanyi <e0206@foo21.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307140748510.4371@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1058170455.561.30.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Alan Cox wrote:

> For some loads poll/select are actually extremely efficient. X clients
> batch commands up and there is a cost to switching between tasks for
> different clients. Viewed as an entire system you actually get quite
> interesting little graphs, especially in the critical load cases where
> select/poll's batching effect makes throughput increase rapidly at 100%
> CPU load, even if it gets you there far too early. Ditto with
> webservers.

Indeed, poll/select are very nice APIs and you definitely want to use them
if your apps does not need certain requirements. If N/M approaches 1, poll
scales exactly (alomst) like epoll. But poll does not born to scale on
huge number of fds, and this is recognized by ages. Yesterday I pulled out
a Mogul paper where (a long time ago) he talks about poll limits and he
also talks about three ideal APIs to deal with networking load :

declare_interest == epoll_ctl(EPOLL_CTL_ADD)
revoke_interest == epoll_ctl(EPOLL_CTL_DEL)
dequeue_next_events == epoll_wait()

This a long time before epoll :)



- Davide


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-14 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12 18:16 [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-12 20:51   ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 20:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:19       ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 21:20         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:41         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 23:11           ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 23:55             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  1:05               ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-13 20:32       ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 21:10         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  8:14               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 15:03                 ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2003-07-14  1:27             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 21:14         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:11             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:52             ` Entrope
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-14  7:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  1:51             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-15 20:27             ` James Antill
2003-07-16  1:46               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-16  2:09                 ` James Antill
2003-07-13 13:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 16:55       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 20:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  5:24   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 17:00       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 19:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:03           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:24               ` POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections) Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:37                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:02                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:16                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:21                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:42                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  4:00                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  5:51                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:24                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  6:57                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:35                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:04                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:27                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14 17:09     ` [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections kuznet
2003-07-14 17:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier

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