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From: Johannes Erdfelt <johannes@erdfelt.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:46:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031230194639.E19236@sventech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031231002942.GB2875@kroah.com>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> So, how does devfs stack up to the above problems and constraints:
>   Problems:
>     2) devfs does not handle the need for dynamic major/minor numbers

First, I want to say that I very much agree with everything Greg wrote
and that udev is much better than devfs. I very much appreciate the work
getting it to where it is now.

That being said, one could argue that devfs obviates the need for
major/minor numbers altogether, making dynamic major/minor numbers moot.

That assumes that all drivers had devfs support and a correct
implementation of devfs.

I've always disliked major/minor numbers, but if that is the sole price
to pay for udev, then I don't really care :)

JE



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Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-31  0:29 udev and devfs - The final word Greg KH
2003-12-31  0:29 ` Greg KH
2003-12-31  0:46 ` Johannes Erdfelt [this message]
2003-12-31  0:53 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2003-12-31  0:53   ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2003-12-31 19:17   ` Greg KH
2003-12-31 19:17     ` Greg KH
2004-01-02 16:45     ` Shawn
2004-01-02 16:45       ` Shawn
2003-12-31 12:43 ` Paulo Marques
2004-01-01  1:18 ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-01  1:18   ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-03  5:59   ` Greg KH
2004-01-03  5:59     ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 15:22     ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-03 15:22       ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-03 21:18       ` viro
2004-01-03 21:18         ` viro
2004-01-03 22:11       ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 22:11         ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20040103140140.3b848e9f.witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org>
2004-01-03 22:16       ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 22:16         ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 22:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-01-03 22:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-01-02 17:54 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-01-02 18:19   ` Shawn
2004-03-29 15:38 ` Shawn
2004-03-29 15:39 ` Greg KH
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Helge Hafting
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Greg KH
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Greg KH
2004-03-29 15:40 ` viro
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] <18Cz7-7Ep-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-31  3:05 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-12-31 19:23   ` Greg KH
2003-12-31 20:19     ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 22:01       ` Nathan Conrad
2003-12-31 22:20         ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 21:45           ` Tommi Virtanen
2003-12-31 23:10             ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 21:52               ` Tommi Virtanen
2004-01-02  0:17                 ` Hollis Blanchard
2004-01-02  0:36                   ` viro
2004-01-03  6:04                   ` Greg KH
2003-12-31 22:55           ` viro
2003-12-31 23:05             ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 23:48             ` Andreas Dilger
2004-01-07 10:15             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 11:18               ` viro
2004-01-07 13:00                 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 13:26                   ` viro
2004-01-07 13:27                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-01  0:15       ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-01  0:31         ` Rob Love
2004-01-01 12:34           ` Rob Landley
2004-01-01 15:22             ` Rob Love
2004-01-01 15:48               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-01 15:54                 ` Rob Love
2004-01-02 20:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03  3:00                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03  4:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03 13:10                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03 22:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03 23:08                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04  1:16                               ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-04  1:54                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-04 18:44                                   ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-04  2:09                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04  2:49                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04  3:04                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04 13:21                                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04 21:05                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04 22:01                                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04 22:37                                           ` viro
2004-01-05  1:02                                             ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05  2:24                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  2:29                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05  3:42                                               ` viro
2004-01-04 22:37                                           ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-04 23:35                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  1:43                                             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2004-01-05  1:58                                               ` viro
2004-01-05  2:12                                                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2004-01-05  2:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  3:06                                             ` David Lang
2004-01-05  3:48                                               ` Rob Landley
2004-01-05  4:52                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-05 15:13                                                 ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05 16:36                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-01-05 22:18                                                     ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05  3:07                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-05  3:33                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  3:50                                                 ` viro
2004-01-05  4:02                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  4:38                                                     ` viro
2004-01-05  4:52                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  6:11                                                         ` viro
2004-01-05  7:47                                                         ` Greg KH
2004-01-05 11:15                                                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 20:11                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-01-05 21:06                                                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 22:22                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-01-06  0:14                                                                 ` Rob Landley
2004-01-11 22:12                                                         ` Ed L Cashin
2004-01-05  5:26                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-05  7:39                                                       ` Greg KH
2004-01-07  9:57                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-05 12:27                                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 16:13                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 17:29                                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 17:33                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 17:52                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-05 18:03                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 18:09                                                         ` Hugo Mills
2004-01-05 19:10                                                         ` Paul Rolland
2004-01-05 19:52                                                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 20:38                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 22:17                                                         ` Shawn
2004-01-05 22:25                                                           ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05 23:05                                                             ` Shawn
2004-01-05 23:23                                                               ` Shawn
2004-01-06  0:43                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  0:53                                                                 ` Shawn
2004-01-05 23:13                                                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 23:32                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  0:59                                                             ` viro
2004-01-06  1:17                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  4:28                                                                 ` viro
2004-01-06  5:07                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  1:06                                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-06 15:00                                                               ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-06  0:00                                                           ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  1:41                                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-07 17:14                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  0:31                                                           ` Rob Landley
2004-01-06  7:14                                                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05  7:44                                             ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-01-05  7:45                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-05 11:01                                                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-05 12:39                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-07 13:39                                                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-07 17:16                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-05  9:06                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  4:15                                           ` Peter Chubb
2004-01-05  4:42                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-01 19:43             ` Kai Henningsen
2004-01-02  7:26               ` Rob Landley
2004-01-04  8:57                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-04  9:43                   ` Rob Landley
2004-01-02  0:17             ` Maciej Zenczykowski
     [not found]               ` <20040102103104.GA28168@mark.mielke.cc>
2004-01-03  6:07                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-03  6:51                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-03 11:57                     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-03 22:08                     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 10:23             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-01 23:14           ` Rob
2004-01-02  3:53             ` Tyler Hall
2004-01-01 16:17     ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-01-01 20:03       ` Greg KH
     [not found] <fa.af64864.ugabhg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.de7jae9.1jk0pjt@ifi.uio.no>
2003-12-31 22:17   ` walt
2004-01-01  2:03     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-01  2:05       ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-01 16:59 Shaheed
     [not found] <fa.flhsork.uka2hg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hv9hpq7.1l1q9p3@ifi.uio.no>
2004-01-01 19:53   ` walt
2004-01-01 21:53     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-06  1:20 Paul Zimmerman
2004-01-08 13:05 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 13:53 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 15:40 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:26   ` Diego Calleja
2004-01-08 19:25     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-08 22:40       ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-09  7:03         ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 18:14   ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-08 18:35     ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-08 19:22     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-09  8:51 ` Helge Hafting

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