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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: andrea@novell.com, shaggy@austin.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zap_pte_range should not mark non-uptodate pages dirty
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:15:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041021171558.3214cea4.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041021164245.4abec5d2.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> I don't get it.  invalidate has the pageframe.  All it need to do is to
> lock the page, examine mapcount and if it's non-zero, do the shootdown. 

unmap_mapping_range() will do that - can call it one page at a time, or
batch up runs of pages.  It's not fast, but presumably not frequent either.

The bigger problem is shooting down the buffer_heads.  It's certainly the
case that mpage_readpage() will call block_read_full_page() which will then
bring the page uptodate without performing any I/O.

And invalidating the buffer_heads in invalidate_inode_pages2() is tricky -
we need to enter the filesystem and I'm not sure that either
->invalidatepage() or ->releasepage() are quite suitable.  For a start,
they're best-effort and may fail.  If we just go and mark the buffers not
uptodate we'll probably give ext3 a heart attack, so careful work would be
needed there.

Let's go back to why we needed all of this.  Was it just for the NFS
something-changed-on-the-server code?  If so, would it be sufficient to add
a new invalidate_inode_pages3() just for NFS, which clears the uptodate
bit?  Or something along those lines?


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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: andrea@novell.com, shaggy@austin.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zap_pte_range should not mark non-uptodate pages dirty
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:15:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041021171558.3214cea4.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041021164245.4abec5d2.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> I don't get it.  invalidate has the pageframe.  All it need to do is to
> lock the page, examine mapcount and if it's non-zero, do the shootdown. 

unmap_mapping_range() will do that - can call it one page at a time, or
batch up runs of pages.  It's not fast, but presumably not frequent either.

The bigger problem is shooting down the buffer_heads.  It's certainly the
case that mpage_readpage() will call block_read_full_page() which will then
bring the page uptodate without performing any I/O.

And invalidating the buffer_heads in invalidate_inode_pages2() is tricky -
we need to enter the filesystem and I'm not sure that either
->invalidatepage() or ->releasepage() are quite suitable.  For a start,
they're best-effort and may fail.  If we just go and mark the buffers not
uptodate we'll probably give ext3 a heart attack, so careful work would be
needed there.

Let's go back to why we needed all of this.  Was it just for the NFS
something-changed-on-the-server code?  If so, would it be sufficient to add
a new invalidate_inode_pages3() just for NFS, which clears the uptodate
bit?  Or something along those lines?

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-22  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-21 21:15 [PATCH] zap_pte_range should not mark non-uptodate pages dirty Dave Kleikamp
2004-10-21 21:15 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-10-21 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-21 21:45   ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-21 22:36   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-21 22:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-21 23:02     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-21 23:02       ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-21 23:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-21 23:20         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-21 23:42         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-21 23:42           ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-22  0:15           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-10-22  0:15             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-22  0:41             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  0:41               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  2:51               ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-22  2:51                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-22 16:19                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22 16:19                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  0:30           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  0:30             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  1:22             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  1:22               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22  2:03               ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-22  2:03                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-22 16:17                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22 16:17                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22 17:04                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22 17:04                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-22 23:24                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-22 23:24                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-25 13:58                     ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-10-25 13:58                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-10-26  0:35                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-26  0:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-09 14:15                     ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-11-09 14:15                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-11-09 14:46                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-09 14:46                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-09 19:51                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 19:51                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 19:46                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 19:46                         ` Andrew Morton

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