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From: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, fubar@us.ibm.com,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:31:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090319163151.GB6132@psychotron.englab.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C2073B.8060102@trash.net>

Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:50:03AM CET, kaber@trash.net wrote:
> David Miller wrote:
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:11:28 +0100
>>
>>> I can see two solutions. Either like my patch or somehow allow bridge to know
>>> more MAC addressses per port (maybe netdev can be changed to know more then
>>> one MAC address).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> The netdev struct already supports having a list of multiple unicast
>> MAC addresses, it can probably be used and inspected for this.
>>
>> I'll hold off on your patch until we make some more progress on
>> this discussion.
>
> From reading the balance-alb description, I get the impression that this
> mode is simply not meant to be used with bridging:
>
> 		Adaptive load balancing: includes balance-tlb plus
> 		receive load balancing (rlb) for IPV4 traffic, and
> 		does not require any special switch support.  The
> 		receive load balancing is achieved by ARP negotiation.
> 		The bonding driver intercepts the ARP Replies sent by
> 		the local system on their way out and overwrites the
> 		source hardware address with the unique hardware
> 		address of one of the slaves in the bond such that
> 		different peers use different hardware addresses for
> 		the server.
>
> In any case I'd tend to say that if bond-alb mode mangles outgoing MAC
> addresses, it should restore the original one for received packets
> and keep the hacks local to bonding.

To let bonding driver to resolve this I think there will be needed some kind of
hook in netif_receive_skb() as for example bridge has. I would rather do this
more general and transparent.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: fubar@us.ibm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work	properly in bridge
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:31:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090319163151.GB6132@psychotron.englab.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C2073B.8060102@trash.net>

Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:50:03AM CET, kaber@trash.net wrote:
> David Miller wrote:
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:11:28 +0100
>>
>>> I can see two solutions. Either like my patch or somehow allow bridge to know
>>> more MAC addressses per port (maybe netdev can be changed to know more then
>>> one MAC address).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> The netdev struct already supports having a list of multiple unicast
>> MAC addresses, it can probably be used and inspected for this.
>>
>> I'll hold off on your patch until we make some more progress on
>> this discussion.
>
> From reading the balance-alb description, I get the impression that this
> mode is simply not meant to be used with bridging:
>
> 		Adaptive load balancing: includes balance-tlb plus
> 		receive load balancing (rlb) for IPV4 traffic, and
> 		does not require any special switch support.  The
> 		receive load balancing is achieved by ARP negotiation.
> 		The bonding driver intercepts the ARP Replies sent by
> 		the local system on their way out and overwrites the
> 		source hardware address with the unique hardware
> 		address of one of the slaves in the bond such that
> 		different peers use different hardware addresses for
> 		the server.
>
> In any case I'd tend to say that if bond-alb mode mangles outgoing MAC
> addresses, it should restore the original one for received packets
> and keep the hacks local to bonding.

To let bonding driver to resolve this I think there will be needed some kind of
hook in netif_receive_skb() as for example bridge has. I would rather do this
more general and transparent.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-19 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 214+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-13 18:33 [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge Jiri Pirko
2009-03-13 18:33 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-14  5:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-14  5:39   ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-14  9:49   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-14  9:49     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-15 23:12     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-15 23:12       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-16 11:11       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-16 11:11         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  6:20         ` David Miller
2009-03-19  6:20           ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-19  8:44           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  8:44             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19 10:21             ` David Miller
2009-03-19 10:21               ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-19 11:19               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19 11:19                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  8:50           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-19  8:50             ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-19 16:31             ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2009-03-19 16:31               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:04 ` [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try2 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:04   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-25 13:40     ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-03-25 14:39     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 14:39       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 15:19 ` [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try3 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 15:19   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 16:31   ` Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-25 16:31     ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-25 17:44     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 17:44       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26  0:24       ` David Miller
2009-03-26  0:24         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-26  0:34       ` Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-26  0:34         ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-26 11:12     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 11:12       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 15:52 ` [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 15:52   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:38   ` David Miller
2009-03-27  7:38     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-27  7:46     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:46       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:53     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  7:53       ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  8:41       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  8:41         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  8:55         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  8:55           ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  9:47           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  9:47             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-29 20:53       ` David Miller
2009-03-29 20:53         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-30 12:04         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:04           ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:40           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:40             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:47             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:47               ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:52               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:52                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:58                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:58                   ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-05-26 15:17   ` [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.1 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-26 15:17     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-26 16:32     ` Andy Gospodarek
2009-05-26 16:32       ` [Bridge] " Andy Gospodarek
2009-05-27  8:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27  8:25         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-26 16:59     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-26 16:59       ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-05-27  8:42       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27  8:42         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27 13:53     ` [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.2 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27 13:53       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27 14:39       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-27 14:39         ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-05-28  9:57         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28  9:57           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28 11:05       ` [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.3 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28 11:05         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28 11:41         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-28 11:41           ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-05-29  8:52           ` David Miller
2009-05-29  8:52             ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-28 12:11         ` Andy Gospodarek
2009-05-28 12:11           ` [Bridge] " Andy Gospodarek
2009-04-13  8:37 ` [PATCH 0/4] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try5 Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:37   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:38   ` [PATCH 1/4] net: introduce dev_mac_address_changed Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:38     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:58     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:58       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13  8:42   ` [PATCH 2/4] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:42     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:49     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:49       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 22:54       ` David Miller
2009-04-13 22:54         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13 22:53     ` David Miller
2009-04-13 22:53       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13  8:44   ` [PATCH 3/4] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:44     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:54     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:54       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 10:15       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-14 10:15         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 22:54     ` David Miller
2009-04-13 22:54       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13  8:46   ` [PATCH 4/4] net: bonding: add slave device addresses in mode alb Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:46     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:56     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:56       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15  8:17 ` [PATCH 0/3] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try6 Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:17   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:18   ` [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:18     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:26     ` Li Zefan
2009-04-15  8:26       ` [Bridge] " Li Zefan
2009-04-15  8:29       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:29         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:32       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:32         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  9:21         ` David Miller
2009-04-15  9:21           ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15  9:27         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15  9:27           ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15  9:31           ` David Miller
2009-04-15  9:31             ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15 10:13             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:13               ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:15               ` David Miller
2009-04-15 10:15                 ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15 10:41                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:41                   ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:45                   ` David Miller
2009-04-15 10:45                     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15 10:47                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:47                       ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 14:42               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 14:42                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:17           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:17             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:22             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 11:22               ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 11:28               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:28                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 12:28             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 12:28               ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 18:02     ` [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v2) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 18:02       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 18:54       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 18:54         ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16  8:46         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-16  8:46           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 11:57       ` [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v3) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 11:57         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 15:33         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 15:33           ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-18  7:01           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:01             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:35             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  7:35               ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  7:44               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:44                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  8:06                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  8:06                   ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  8:58         ` [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v4) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  8:58           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-20 16:11           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-20 16:11             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23  8:09             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23  8:09               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23  8:09               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23 15:58           ` [Bonding-devel] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-23 15:58             ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 21:26             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-24 21:26               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-04 11:14           ` [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v5) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-04 11:14             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05  4:37             ` David Miller
2009-05-05  4:37               ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-05  6:37               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05  6:37                 ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 12:48             ` [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v6) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 12:48               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 19:27               ` David Miller
2009-05-05 19:27                 ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-08 22:38                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 22:38                   ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:00                   ` David Miller
2009-05-08 23:00                     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-08 23:12                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:12                       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:25                       ` David Miller
2009-05-08 23:25                         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-08 23:29                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:29                           ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15  8:21   ` [PATCH 2/3] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:21     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 14:46     ` [PATCH net-next] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr (repost) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 14:46       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 15:08       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-06 15:08         ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-05-06 19:26       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-06 19:26         ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-07 22:03         ` David Miller
2009-05-07 22:03           ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15  8:22   ` [PATCH 3/3] net: bonding: add slave device addresses in mode alb Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:22     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-24  9:54 [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge Stanichenko Marat

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