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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ananth Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, utrace-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:03:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091214170327.GA7666@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091214002533.3052519@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On 12/13, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Its not entirely clear why we can check pending_attach outside of the
> > utrace->lock and not be racy.
>
> I think it can be racy sometimes but that does not matter.
> Maybe Oleg can verify my logic here.  If it's right, he can
> add some comments to make it more clear.
>
> There is only a very limited sort of "timeliness" guarantee about
> getting your callbacks after utrace_attach_task()+utrace_set_events().
> If you know somehow that the task was definitely still in TASK_STOPPED
> or TASK_TRACED after utrace_attach_task() returned, then your engine
> gets all possible callbacks starting from when it resumes.  Otherwise,
> you can use utrace_control() with UTRACE_REPORT to ask to get some
> callback "pretty soon".  The only callback events you are ever 100%
> guaranteed about (after success return from utrace_set_events()) are for
> DEATH and REAP, which have an unconditional lock-and-check before making
> engine callbacks.

Yes, I think this is correct. It is fine to miss ->pending_attach == T,
and in any case the new attacher can come right after the check, even
if it was checked under utrace->lock.

It is important that the tracee can't miss, say, UTRACE_REPORT request
(as you already explained), and every time the tracee clears ->resume
it calls splice_attaching().

> In the stopped cases, there are lots of locks and barriers and things
> after resuming.  (Oleg?)

Every time the tracee resumes after TASK_TRACED it uses utrace->lock
to synchronize with utrace_control/etc, it must see any changes.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-14 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24 20:02 [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 20:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 20:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 21:26     ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:31       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-11-24 21:34         ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25  8:46         ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-25 14:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25 16:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 21:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-01 23:47   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-01 22:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-07 18:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 15:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 15:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 16:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 18:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 18:37               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-13 20:48               ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-08 15:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 17:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02  5:44   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-02 18:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 18:49   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-05 19:14     ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14  0:25   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 17:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:31         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:42           ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-16 11:18       ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 17:03     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-12-14 19:44       ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 20:24         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-15  2:59           ` Roland McGrath

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