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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, Tao Ma <tao.ma@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF"
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:18:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100629071817.GA4150@mail.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100629022757.GA6590@dastard>

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:27:57PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> Just to clarify any possible misunderstanding here, xfs_zero_eof()
> also does it's IO through the page cache for similar reasons.  It's
> just the mappings are found via the internal interfaces before the
> zeroing is done via the anonymous pagecache_write_begin()/
> pagecache_write_end() functions (in xfs_iozero()) rather than using
> the generic block functions.

	Mark and I discussed this some earlier this evening.  I think we
might be able to get away cheaper than does.  In
ocfs2_write_begin_nolock(), we call ocfs2_expand_nonsparse_inode() in
the case of older filesystems that don't allow sparse files.  That's
where we handle the zeroing from old_i_size to pos for those files.
	I the exact same place, we could probably just detect we're
about to cover the unzeroed allocation and get it there.  This needs
some more code eval until we're sure, and then the serious testing
happens.

Joel

-- 

"Nothing is wrong with California that a rise in the ocean level
 wouldn't cure."
        - Ross MacDonald

Joel Becker
Consulting Software Developer
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, Tao Ma <tao.ma@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Subject: [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF"
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:18:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100629071817.GA4150@mail.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100629022757.GA6590@dastard>

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:27:57PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> Just to clarify any possible misunderstanding here, xfs_zero_eof()
> also does it's IO through the page cache for similar reasons.  It's
> just the mappings are found via the internal interfaces before the
> zeroing is done via the anonymous pagecache_write_begin()/
> pagecache_write_end() functions (in xfs_iozero()) rather than using
> the generic block functions.

	Mark and I discussed this some earlier this evening.  I think we
might be able to get away cheaper than does.  In
ocfs2_write_begin_nolock(), we call ocfs2_expand_nonsparse_inode() in
the case of older filesystems that don't allow sparse files.  That's
where we handle the zeroing from old_i_size to pos for those files.
	I the exact same place, we could probably just detect we're
about to cover the unzeroed allocation and get it there.  This needs
some more code eval until we're sure, and then the serious testing
happens.

Joel

-- 

"Nothing is wrong with California that a rise in the ocean level
 wouldn't cure."
        - Ross MacDonald

Joel Becker
Consulting Software Developer
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker at oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-29  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-28 17:35 [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF" Joel Becker
2010-06-28 17:35 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  0:24 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  0:24   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  0:54   ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  0:54     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  1:12       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  1:58       ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:58         ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  2:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  2:44           ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:44             ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  8:16           ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  8:16             ` Joel Becker
2010-06-30  1:30             ` Joel Becker
2010-06-30  1:30               ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 19:06         ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 19:06           ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:56     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  1:56       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:04       ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:04         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:27         ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:27           ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  7:18           ` Joel Becker [this message]
2010-06-29  7:18             ` Joel Becker
2010-07-02 22:49             ` [PATCH] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size Joel Becker
2010-07-02 22:49               ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:32               ` [PATCH 1/2] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size v2 Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:32                 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:33                 ` [PATCH 2/2] ocfs2: No need to zero pages past i_size. " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:33                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-04 15:13                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-04 15:13                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-05  1:38                     ` Tao Ma
2010-07-05  1:38                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:10                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:10                         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:09                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:09                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:39                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:39                         ` Joel Becker
2010-07-05  3:51                 ` [PATCH 1/2] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past " Tao Ma
2010-07-05  3:51                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:17                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:17                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:54                     ` Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:54                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06 11:58                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 11:58                         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07  0:42                         ` Tao Ma
2010-07-07  0:42                           ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-07  2:03                           ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07  2:03                             ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:48                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:48                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:57                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:57                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 0/3] ocfs2: Tail zeroing fixes Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-12 22:45                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-12 22:45                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 1/3] ocfs2: When zero extending, do it by page Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 15:19                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-07 15:19                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-07 20:04                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07 20:04                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-08  3:44                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-08  3:44                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-08  9:51                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-08  9:51                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 2/3] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 3/3] ocfs2: No need to zero pages " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker

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