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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, Tao Ma <tao.ma@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF"
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:16:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100629081611.GB4150@mail.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil5y7F9w-18mVi0G1S5pSv9MiKq6XL5MWAMFBQM@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:20:33PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I dunno. Filesystem corruption makes me nervous. So I'm certainly
> totally willing to do the revert if that makes ocfs2 work again. Even
> if "work again" happens to be partly by mistake, and for some reason
> that isn't obvious.

	Filesystem corruption makes me more than nervous.  I'm quite
devastated by this.

> Your call, I guess.  If any ocfs2 fix looks scary, and you'd prefer to
> have an -rc4 (in a few days - not today) with just the revert, I'm ok
> with that. Even if it's only a "at least no worse than 2.6.34"
> situation rather than a real fix.

	I've checked both before this patch and with the patch reverted.
We corrupt in both cases.  The problem is our assumption about zeroing
past i_size.  The revert will fix our BUG_ON, but not the corruption.
	Mark and I have ideas on how to fix the actual bug, but they
will take some time and especially testing.  We also have some
shorter-term ideas on how to paper over the issue.  We have to have to
have this fixed by .35.
	If -rc4 isn't coming for a couple of days, can we hold off on
the decision until we get a chance to think about a paper-over solution
for it?  Then we can avoid the revert.

Joel

-- 

You can use a screwdriver to screw in screws or to clean your ears,
however, the latter needs real skill, determination and a lack of fear
of injuring yourself.  It is much the same with JavaScript.
	- Chris Heilmann

Joel Becker
Consulting Software Developer
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, Tao Ma <tao.ma@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Subject: [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF"
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:16:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100629081611.GB4150@mail.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil5y7F9w-18mVi0G1S5pSv9MiKq6XL5MWAMFBQM@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:20:33PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I dunno. Filesystem corruption makes me nervous. So I'm certainly
> totally willing to do the revert if that makes ocfs2 work again. Even
> if "work again" happens to be partly by mistake, and for some reason
> that isn't obvious.

	Filesystem corruption makes me more than nervous.  I'm quite
devastated by this.

> Your call, I guess.  If any ocfs2 fix looks scary, and you'd prefer to
> have an -rc4 (in a few days - not today) with just the revert, I'm ok
> with that. Even if it's only a "at least no worse than 2.6.34"
> situation rather than a real fix.

	I've checked both before this patch and with the patch reverted.
We corrupt in both cases.  The problem is our assumption about zeroing
past i_size.  The revert will fix our BUG_ON, but not the corruption.
	Mark and I have ideas on how to fix the actual bug, but they
will take some time and especially testing.  We also have some
shorter-term ideas on how to paper over the issue.  We have to have to
have this fixed by .35.
	If -rc4 isn't coming for a couple of days, can we hold off on
the decision until we get a chance to think about a paper-over solution
for it?  Then we can avoid the revert.

Joel

-- 

You can use a screwdriver to screw in screws or to clean your ears,
however, the latter needs real skill, determination and a lack of fear
of injuring yourself.  It is much the same with JavaScript.
	- Chris Heilmann

Joel Becker
Consulting Software Developer
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker at oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-29  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-28 17:35 [PATCH] Revert "writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF" Joel Becker
2010-06-28 17:35 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  0:24 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  0:24   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  0:54   ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  0:54     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  1:12       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  1:58       ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:58         ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  2:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29  2:44           ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:44             ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  8:16           ` Joel Becker [this message]
2010-06-29  8:16             ` Joel Becker
2010-06-30  1:30             ` Joel Becker
2010-06-30  1:30               ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 19:06         ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 19:06           ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  1:56     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  1:56       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:04       ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:04         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-06-29  2:27         ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  2:27           ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2010-06-29  7:18           ` Joel Becker
2010-06-29  7:18             ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-02 22:49             ` [PATCH] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size Joel Becker
2010-07-02 22:49               ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:32               ` [PATCH 1/2] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size v2 Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:32                 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:33                 ` [PATCH 2/2] ocfs2: No need to zero pages past i_size. " Joel Becker
2010-07-03 21:33                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-04 15:13                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-04 15:13                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-05  1:38                     ` Tao Ma
2010-07-05  1:38                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:10                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:10                         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:09                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:09                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:39                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:39                         ` Joel Becker
2010-07-05  3:51                 ` [PATCH 1/2] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past " Tao Ma
2010-07-05  3:51                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:17                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:17                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06  7:54                     ` Tao Ma
2010-07-06  7:54                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-06 11:58                       ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 11:58                         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07  0:42                         ` Tao Ma
2010-07-07  0:42                           ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-07  2:03                           ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07  2:03                             ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:48                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:48                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:57                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-06 18:57                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 0/3] ocfs2: Tail zeroing fixes Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-12 22:45                   ` Joel Becker
2010-07-12 22:45                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 1/3] ocfs2: When zero extending, do it by page Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 15:19                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-07 15:19                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-07 20:04                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-07 20:04                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-08  3:44                   ` Tao Ma
2010-07-08  3:44                     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Tao Ma
2010-07-08  9:51                     ` Joel Becker
2010-07-08  9:51                       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 2/3] ocfs2: Zero the tail cluster when extending past i_size Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                 ` [PATCH 3/3] ocfs2: No need to zero pages " Joel Becker
2010-07-07 11:16                   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker

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