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From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:40:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110810124034.GA24133@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-2-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:47:14AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> 
> When kswapd is failing to keep zones above the min watermark, a process
> will enter direct reclaim in the same manner kswapd does. If a dirty
> page is encountered during the scan, this page is written to backing
> storage using mapping->writepage.
> 
> This causes two problems. First, it can result in very deep call
> stacks, particularly if the target storage or filesystem are complex.
> Some filesystems ignore write requests from direct reclaim as a result.
> The second is that a single-page flush is inefficient in terms of IO.
> While there is an expectation that the elevator will merge requests,
> this does not always happen. Quoting Christoph Hellwig;
> 
> 	The elevator has a relatively small window it can operate on,
> 	and can never fix up a bad large scale writeback pattern.
> 
> This patch prevents direct reclaim writing back filesystem pages by
> checking if current is kswapd. Anonymous pages are still written to
> swap as there is not the equivalent of a flusher thread for anonymous
> pages. If the dirty pages cannot be written back, they are placed
> back on the LRU lists. There is now a direct dependency on dirty page
> balancing to prevent too many pages in the system being dirtied which
> would prevent reclaim making forward progress.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:40:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110810124034.GA24133@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-2-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:47:14AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> 
> When kswapd is failing to keep zones above the min watermark, a process
> will enter direct reclaim in the same manner kswapd does. If a dirty
> page is encountered during the scan, this page is written to backing
> storage using mapping->writepage.
> 
> This causes two problems. First, it can result in very deep call
> stacks, particularly if the target storage or filesystem are complex.
> Some filesystems ignore write requests from direct reclaim as a result.
> The second is that a single-page flush is inefficient in terms of IO.
> While there is an expectation that the elevator will merge requests,
> this does not always happen. Quoting Christoph Hellwig;
> 
> 	The elevator has a relatively small window it can operate on,
> 	and can never fix up a bad large scale writeback pattern.
> 
> This patch prevents direct reclaim writing back filesystem pages by
> checking if current is kswapd. Anonymous pages are still written to
> swap as there is not the equivalent of a flusher thread for anonymous
> pages. If the dirty pages cannot be written back, they are placed
> back on the LRU lists. There is now a direct dependency on dirty page
> balancing to prevent too many pages in the system being dirtied which
> would prevent reclaim making forward progress.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>

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From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:40:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110810124034.GA24133@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-2-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:47:14AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> 
> When kswapd is failing to keep zones above the min watermark, a process
> will enter direct reclaim in the same manner kswapd does. If a dirty
> page is encountered during the scan, this page is written to backing
> storage using mapping->writepage.
> 
> This causes two problems. First, it can result in very deep call
> stacks, particularly if the target storage or filesystem are complex.
> Some filesystems ignore write requests from direct reclaim as a result.
> The second is that a single-page flush is inefficient in terms of IO.
> While there is an expectation that the elevator will merge requests,
> this does not always happen. Quoting Christoph Hellwig;
> 
> 	The elevator has a relatively small window it can operate on,
> 	and can never fix up a bad large scale writeback pattern.
> 
> This patch prevents direct reclaim writing back filesystem pages by
> checking if current is kswapd. Anonymous pages are still written to
> swap as there is not the equivalent of a flusher thread for anonymous
> pages. If the dirty pages cannot be written back, they are placed
> back on the LRU lists. There is now a direct dependency on dirty page
> balancing to prevent too many pages in the system being dirtied which
> would prevent reclaim making forward progress.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-10 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-10 10:47 [PATCH 0/7] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v3 Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:40   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-08-10 12:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-11  9:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 15:57   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 15:57     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 15:57     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm: vmscan: Remove dead code related to lumpy reclaim waiting on pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:41   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 23:19   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:19     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:19     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11  9:05   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:05     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:05     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 16:52   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:52     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:52     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: Warn if direct reclaim tries to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 16:53   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:53     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:53     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] ext4: " Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 17:07   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 17:07     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 17:07     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-11  9:10   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 20:25     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:25       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:25       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-17  1:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17  1:06         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17  1:06         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 18:18   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 18:18     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 18:18     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 20:38     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:38       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:38       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: vmscan: Throttle reclaim if encountering too many dirty pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11  9:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-12  2:47   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12  2:47     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12  2:47     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-16 14:06   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 15:02     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-16 15:02       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-16 15:02       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-18 14:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-30 13:49     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:49       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:49       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm: vmscan: Immediately reclaim end-of-LRU dirty pages when writeback completes Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 23:22   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:22     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:22     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11  9:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-12 15:27   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12 15:27     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12 15:27     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 11:00 ` [PATCH 0/7] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v3 Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:15   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 11:15     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 11:15     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 23:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 23:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 23:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-18 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-20 19:33   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-20 19:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-20 19:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19     ` Mel Gorman

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