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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:49:08 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110905194908.GA2690@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110905192009.GJ761@sun>

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 23:20 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 10:53:58PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> ...
> >  
> > +static int pid_no_revalidate(struct dentry *dentry, struct nameidata *nd)
> > +{
> > +	if (nd && nd->flags & LOOKUP_RCU)
> > +		return -ECHILD;
> > +
> > +	d_drop(dentry);
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> 
> Thanks Vasiliy! So every lookup will cause dcache to drop previous cached
> entry and alloc and hash new one instead, pretty dramatic, espec in case
> of huge number of files mapped ;) Still since it's not time critical operation
> (at least for now) I tend to agree.

Actually, it can be speed up by introducing the same ptrace check.  If
ptrace check fails, then just drop the dentry, otherwise continue to use
it.  Then each revalidate would trigger ptrace check instead of full
drop-lookup-alloc cycle.  If one process actively looks into
map_files/ or fd/, it will not become significantly slower.  However, it
will trigger 2 capable() fail alerts in ptrace_may_access() instead of
one :)


But I still see one very nasty issue - one may trigger this ptrace check,
trigger d_drop() and then look at /proc/slabinfo at "dentry" row.  If
the number has changed, then the interested dentry existed before the
revalidate call.  This infoleak is tricky to fix without any race.

Probably it's time to close /proc/slabinfo infoleak?


Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:49:08 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110905194908.GA2690@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110905192009.GJ761@sun>

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 23:20 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 10:53:58PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> ...
> >  
> > +static int pid_no_revalidate(struct dentry *dentry, struct nameidata *nd)
> > +{
> > +	if (nd && nd->flags & LOOKUP_RCU)
> > +		return -ECHILD;
> > +
> > +	d_drop(dentry);
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> 
> Thanks Vasiliy! So every lookup will cause dcache to drop previous cached
> entry and alloc and hash new one instead, pretty dramatic, espec in case
> of huge number of files mapped ;) Still since it's not time critical operation
> (at least for now) I tend to agree.

Actually, it can be speed up by introducing the same ptrace check.  If
ptrace check fails, then just drop the dentry, otherwise continue to use
it.  Then each revalidate would trigger ptrace check instead of full
drop-lookup-alloc cycle.  If one process actively looks into
map_files/ or fd/, it will not become significantly slower.  However, it
will trigger 2 capable() fail alerts in ptrace_may_access() instead of
one :)


But I still see one very nasty issue - one may trigger this ptrace check,
trigger d_drop() and then look at /proc/slabinfo at "dentry" row.  If
the number has changed, then the interested dentry existed before the
revalidate call.  This infoleak is tricky to fix without any race.

Probably it's time to close /proc/slabinfo infoleak?


Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-05 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-31  7:58 [patch 0/2] Introduce /proc/pid/map_files v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  7:58 ` [patch 1/2] fs, proc: Make proc_get_link to use dentry instead of inode Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  7:58 ` [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  9:06   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-31 10:12     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 11:26     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:04       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-08-31 14:09         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:26         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:10           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01  3:07             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01  3:07               ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01  7:58             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 11:50               ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-01 12:13                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 17:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 19:15                     ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-02  0:09               ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-01  8:05             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02 16:37               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-02 16:37                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 19:20                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:20                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:49                     ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-09-05 19:49                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 20:36                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 20:36                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 10:15                         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 10:15                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 16:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 16:51                             ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:29                             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:29                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:33                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:33                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 18:15                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 18:15                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
     [not found]                                 ` <20110906173341.GM18425-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-07 11:23                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 11:23                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 21:53                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 21:53                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:13                                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13                                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13                                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:42                                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:42                                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:53                                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53                                             ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53                                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08  5:48                                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:48                                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:50                                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:50                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  6:04                                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  6:04                                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 23:52                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52                                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  0:24                                                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  0:24                                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  0:24                                                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  5:48                                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  5:48                                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  6:00                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  6:00                                                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  6:22                                                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-10 13:21                                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-10 13:49                                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 10:46             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 22:49               ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 23:04                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  5:54                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02  5:53                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:50           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02  1:54   ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02  1:58     ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  2:04       ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02  2:29         ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  8:07           ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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