All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:36:27 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110905203627.GL761@sun> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110905194908.GA2690@albatros>

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 11:49:08PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
...
> 
> Actually, it can be speed up by introducing the same ptrace check.  If
> ptrace check fails, then just drop the dentry, otherwise continue to use
> it.  Then each revalidate would trigger ptrace check instead of full
> drop-lookup-alloc cycle.  If one process actively looks into
> map_files/ or fd/, it will not become significantly slower.  However, it
> will trigger 2 capable() fail alerts in ptrace_may_access() instead of
> one :)

Hmm, at least it's better than trashing dcache I think.

> 
> But I still see one very nasty issue - one may trigger this ptrace check,
> trigger d_drop() and then look at /proc/slabinfo at "dentry" row.  If
> the number has changed, then the interested dentry existed before the
> revalidate call.  This infoleak is tricky to fix without any race.
> 
> Probably it's time to close /proc/slabinfo infoleak? 
> 

Actually I miss to see how exactly this infoleak can be used by attacker
or whoever. So, Vasiliy, what the security issue there?

	Cyrill

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:36:27 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110905203627.GL761@sun> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110905194908.GA2690@albatros>

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 11:49:08PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
...
> 
> Actually, it can be speed up by introducing the same ptrace check.  If
> ptrace check fails, then just drop the dentry, otherwise continue to use
> it.  Then each revalidate would trigger ptrace check instead of full
> drop-lookup-alloc cycle.  If one process actively looks into
> map_files/ or fd/, it will not become significantly slower.  However, it
> will trigger 2 capable() fail alerts in ptrace_may_access() instead of
> one :)

Hmm, at least it's better than trashing dcache I think.

> 
> But I still see one very nasty issue - one may trigger this ptrace check,
> trigger d_drop() and then look at /proc/slabinfo at "dentry" row.  If
> the number has changed, then the interested dentry existed before the
> revalidate call.  This infoleak is tricky to fix without any race.
> 
> Probably it's time to close /proc/slabinfo infoleak? 
> 

Actually I miss to see how exactly this infoleak can be used by attacker
or whoever. So, Vasiliy, what the security issue there?

	Cyrill

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-05 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-31  7:58 [patch 0/2] Introduce /proc/pid/map_files v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  7:58 ` [patch 1/2] fs, proc: Make proc_get_link to use dentry instead of inode Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  7:58 ` [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31  9:06   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-31 10:12     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 11:26     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:04       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-08-31 14:09         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:26         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:10           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01  3:07             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01  3:07               ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01  7:58             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 11:50               ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-01 12:13                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 17:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 19:15                     ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-02  0:09               ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-01  8:05             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02 16:37               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-02 16:37                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 19:20                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:20                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:49                     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 19:49                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 20:36                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2011-09-05 20:36                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 10:15                         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 10:15                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 16:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 16:51                             ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:29                             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:29                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:33                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:33                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 18:15                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 18:15                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
     [not found]                                 ` <20110906173341.GM18425-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-07 11:23                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 11:23                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 21:53                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 21:53                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:13                                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13                                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13                                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:42                                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:42                                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:53                                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53                                             ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53                                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08  5:48                                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:48                                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:50                                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  5:50                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  6:04                                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08  6:04                                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 23:52                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52                                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  0:24                                                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  0:24                                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  0:24                                                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09  5:48                                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  5:48                                                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  6:00                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  6:00                                                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09  6:22                                                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-10 13:21                                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-10 13:49                                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 10:46             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 22:49               ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 23:04                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  5:54                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02  5:53                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:50           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02  1:54   ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02  1:58     ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  2:04       ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02  2:29         ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02  8:07           ` Kirill A. Shutemov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110905203627.GL761@sun \
    --to=gorcunov@gmail.com \
    --cc=adobriyan@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=containers@lists.osdl.org \
    --cc=dlezcano@fr.ibm.com \
    --cc=glommer@parallels.com \
    --cc=jbottomley@parallels.com \
    --cc=kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com \
    --cc=kirill@shutemov.name \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ntl@pobox.com \
    --cc=orenl@cs.columbia.edu \
    --cc=segoon@openwall.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=xemul@parallels.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.