pseudo interaction issue

pseudo interaction issue

[Paul Eggleton]

Hi all,

I'm trying to extend buildhistory to write out the metadata revisions just 
before it does the commit to the buildhistory repository, and I'm having some 
pseudo-related trouble. The structure is a little unusual, in that the 
execution flow is an event handler that calls a shell function (via 
bb.build.exec_func()) and during parsing this function an ${@...} reference to 
a python function is evaluated, which then calls os.popen(), at which point I 
get the error "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to 
run pseudo."

I don't need pseudo at this stage. I've tried setting PSEUDO_DISABLED=1 and 
even PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 just prior to the os.popen() call (or within it) and 
despite evidence that pseudo is taking notice of these being set in other 
contexts (when the function is called from elsewhere) even when doing this I 
still get the error above. I could rearrange the structure to avoid this 
execution flow however that would bar me from reusing existing code that we 
have for getting the metadata revision.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Paul

-- 

Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Mark Hatle]

We're looking into this issue.  You should never get the "pseudo: You must set 
the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to run pseudo." message.  This means 
something appears to have avoided the wrappers.

I'll let you know once we figure out something.

--Mark

On 2/17/12 9:35 AM, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to extend buildhistory to write out the metadata revisions just
> before it does the commit to the buildhistory repository, and I'm having some
> pseudo-related trouble. The structure is a little unusual, in that the
> execution flow is an event handler that calls a shell function (via
> bb.build.exec_func()) and during parsing this function an ${@...} reference to
> a python function is evaluated, which then calls os.popen(), at which point I
> get the error "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to
> run pseudo."
>
> I don't need pseudo at this stage. I've tried setting PSEUDO_DISABLED=1 and
> even PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 just prior to the os.popen() call (or within it) and
> despite evidence that pseudo is taking notice of these being set in other
> contexts (when the function is called from elsewhere) even when doing this I
> still get the error above. I could rearrange the structure to avoid this
> execution flow however that would bar me from reusing existing code that we
> have for getting the metadata revision.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Xu, Dongxiao]

Hi Mark,

When using the new Hob to build targets, I also observed the pseudo
output:

"pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to run
pseudo."

Here is the step to reproduce it:

1) source oe-init-build-env
2) hob
3) select machine and base image. Here I use qemux86 and
core-image-minimal.
4) click "Just bake". For this first time build, pseudo works OK.
5) after the build finishes, return to image configuration page and
click "Just bake" button again. Then after the build starts, pseudo will
print out the above logs.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 10:50 -0800, Mark Hatle wrote:
> We're looking into this issue.  You should never get the "pseudo: You must set 
> the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to run pseudo." message.  This means 
> something appears to have avoided the wrappers.
> 
> I'll let you know once we figure out something.
> 
> --Mark
> 
> On 2/17/12 9:35 AM, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to extend buildhistory to write out the metadata revisions just
> > before it does the commit to the buildhistory repository, and I'm having some
> > pseudo-related trouble. The structure is a little unusual, in that the
> > execution flow is an event handler that calls a shell function (via
> > bb.build.exec_func()) and during parsing this function an ${@...} reference to
> > a python function is evaluated, which then calls os.popen(), at which point I
> > get the error "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to
> > run pseudo."
> >
> > I don't need pseudo at this stage. I've tried setting PSEUDO_DISABLED=1 and
> > even PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 just prior to the os.popen() call (or within it) and
> > despite evidence that pseudo is taking notice of these being set in other
> > contexts (when the function is called from elsewhere) even when doing this I
> > still get the error above. I could rearrange the structure to avoid this
> > execution flow however that would bar me from reusing existing code that we
> > have for getting the metadata revision.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> yocto mailing list
> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Xu, Dongxiao]

Hi Mark,

Any update on this one? I think we may need to track it in bugzilla.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 17:02 +0800, Xu, Dongxiao wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> When using the new Hob to build targets, I also observed the pseudo
> output:
> 
> "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to run
> pseudo."
> 
> Here is the step to reproduce it:
> 
> 1) source oe-init-build-env
> 2) hob
> 3) select machine and base image. Here I use qemux86 and
> core-image-minimal.
> 4) click "Just bake". For this first time build, pseudo works OK.
> 5) after the build finishes, return to image configuration page and
> click "Just bake" button again. Then after the build starts, pseudo will
> print out the above logs.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dongxiao
> 
> On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 10:50 -0800, Mark Hatle wrote:
> > We're looking into this issue.  You should never get the "pseudo: You must set 
> > the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to run pseudo." message.  This means 
> > something appears to have avoided the wrappers.
> > 
> > I'll let you know once we figure out something.
> > 
> > --Mark
> > 
> > On 2/17/12 9:35 AM, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to extend buildhistory to write out the metadata revisions just
> > > before it does the commit to the buildhistory repository, and I'm having some
> > > pseudo-related trouble. The structure is a little unusual, in that the
> > > execution flow is an event handler that calls a shell function (via
> > > bb.build.exec_func()) and during parsing this function an ${@...} reference to
> > > a python function is evaluated, which then calls os.popen(), at which point I
> > > get the error "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX environment variable to
> > > run pseudo."
> > >
> > > I don't need pseudo at this stage. I've tried setting PSEUDO_DISABLED=1 and
> > > even PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 just prior to the os.popen() call (or within it) and
> > > despite evidence that pseudo is taking notice of these being set in other
> > > contexts (when the function is called from elsewhere) even when doing this I
> > > still get the error above. I could rearrange the structure to avoid this
> > > execution flow however that would bar me from reusing existing code that we
> > > have for getting the metadata revision.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paul
> > >
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > yocto mailing list
> > yocto@yoctoproject.org
> > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> 

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:49:41 +0800
"Xu, Dongxiao" <dongxiao.xu@intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Any update on this one? I think we may need to track it in bugzilla.

I have been looking into this.  I've convinced myself that popen() is
broken under pseudo, but that's not enough to explain this:

* I have a fixed pseudo where popen works.  It still fails sometimes
  under hob.
* When it fails, the popen() wrapper isn't even getting called.
* Still looking into this.

Interestingly, I can't get this failure to occur at all outside of hob.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Xu, Dongxiao]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 11:18 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:49:41 +0800
> "Xu, Dongxiao" <dongxiao.xu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > Any update on this one? I think we may need to track it in bugzilla.
> 
> I have been looking into this.  I've convinced myself that popen() is
> broken under pseudo, but that's not enough to explain this:
> 
> * I have a fixed pseudo where popen works.  It still fails sometimes
>   under hob.
> * When it fails, the popen() wrapper isn't even getting called.
> * Still looking into this.
> 
> Interestingly, I can't get this failure to occur at all outside of hob.

I think the difference between Hob and other UI (e.x., knotty) is that,
when building image is finished in knotty, the UI, bitbake server, and
pseudo all quit. But in Hob, everything still alive after a build. I
noticed that the pseudo error happens only when Hob is trying to issue a
second build.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

> 
> -s

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:01:16 +0800
"Xu, Dongxiao" <dongxiao.xu@intel.com> wrote:

> I think the difference between Hob and other UI (e.x., knotty) is
> that, when building image is finished in knotty, the UI, bitbake
> server, and pseudo all quit. But in Hob, everything still alive after
> a build. I noticed that the pseudo error happens only when Hob is
> trying to issue a second build.

I get it on the first build.

... You see the issue.

Pseudo shouldn't be having a problem, it's designed to restart as
needed.

Right now, what I know is:
1.  I didn't catch popen(), and this can actually be an issue with
stuff like PSEUDO_UNLOAD or PSEUDO_DISABLED in play.
2.  If I wrap popen, and have the wrapper unconditionally emit a
diagnostic, that works for simple os.popen() test cases.
3.  But not for the case that's triggering this.

So it looks like, when this runs, we have a Python session which has
had pseudo unloaded, not just disabled, which then sets LD_PRELOAD but
doesn't set PSEUDO_PREFIX.  Or something.

I'm still trying to get better data on this, like figure out how the
sub-process is even getting invoked.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Xu, Dongxiao]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 21:29 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:01:16 +0800
> "Xu, Dongxiao" <dongxiao.xu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think the difference between Hob and other UI (e.x., knotty) is
> > that, when building image is finished in knotty, the UI, bitbake
> > server, and pseudo all quit. But in Hob, everything still alive after
> > a build. I noticed that the pseudo error happens only when Hob is
> > trying to issue a second build.
> 
> I get it on the first build.

What do you mean by first build? Did you click "Just bake" button?

Actually "Just bake" button is divided into two steps:

1) build_target(packages)
2) build_target(image)

I noticed the pseudo error will happen when calling build_target(image).
Therefore I also treated it as second build.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

> 
> ... You see the issue.
> 
> Pseudo shouldn't be having a problem, it's designed to restart as
> needed.
> 
> Right now, what I know is:
> 1.  I didn't catch popen(), and this can actually be an issue with
> stuff like PSEUDO_UNLOAD or PSEUDO_DISABLED in play.
> 2.  If I wrap popen, and have the wrapper unconditionally emit a
> diagnostic, that works for simple os.popen() test cases.
> 3.  But not for the case that's triggering this.
> 
> So it looks like, when this runs, we have a Python session which has
> had pseudo unloaded, not just disabled, which then sets LD_PRELOAD but
> doesn't set PSEUDO_PREFIX.  Or something.
> 
> I'm still trying to get better data on this, like figure out how the
> sub-process is even getting invoked.
> 
> -s

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:21:26 +0800
"Xu, Dongxiao" <dongxiao.xu@intel.com> wrote:

> What do you mean by first build? Did you click "Just bake" button?

Yes.  The original reproducer I saw said that it worked the first time,
but failed the second time.

> 1) build_target(packages)
> 2) build_target(image)
 
> I noticed the pseudo error will happen when calling
> build_target(image). Therefore I also treated it as second build.

Interesting.

I am, currently, sort of stumped on this.  The failures are coming from
the git log/git branch commands using os.popen(), and those calls
appear to be happening in a process:
1.  Which did not have the pseudo library loaded, at all.
2.  Which has LD_PRELOAD set to include pseudo.
3.  Which has most of the PSEUDO_BINDIR, etc., values set.
4.  Which does not have PSEUDO_PREFIX set.

I can't figure out how to get there.  I can't reproduce this outside of
hob, yet.  And obviously, if the pseudo library isn't loaded, I can't
add more debugging or logging to pseudo to fix it.  (I infer that it's
not loaded because os.popen() isn't hitting diagnostic messages in
pseudo's new popen() wrapper, even if they're completely unconditional.)

I added an abort(), and got a core file.  The core file shows a
backtrace in /bin/sh:

#0  0x00007f1232cd8a75 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f1232cdc5c0 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f1233497489 in pseudo_get_prefix (pathname=0x7f123349ac9d
"<null>")
    at pseudo_util.c:1060
#3  0x00007f1233498244 in pseudo_setupenv () at pseudo_util.c:717
#4  0x00007f12334955dd in wrap_fork () at ports/common/guts/fork.c:14
#5  0x00007f1233495675 in fork () at ports/common/pseudo_wrappers.c:322
#6  0x000000000044339c in make_child ()
#7  0x0000000000436f04 in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000000433fa4 in execute_command_internal ()
#9  0x000000000043475e in execute_command_internal ()
#10 0x000000000047262a in parse_and_execute ()
#11 0x000000000041fd04 in ?? ()
#12 0x0000000000420e01 in main ()

I haven't found an obvious way to look at the arguments to main, but
I'm pretty sure it's one of the "cd REPO; git log..." commands.  So...

Basically, I can't see how we can get here.

Currently leaning towards a theory that the issue may be that we only
set PSEUDO_PREFIX when we think we want pseudo, and it looks like in
the PSEUDO_DISABLED=1 case, it may be that we can end up with a task
being run in an environment where LD_PRELOAD had been set, but we've
cleaned up our environment, and the disabled path is skipping part of
the environment setup.

Still really weird to me that I can't reproduce this outside of hob.
I am pretty sure there exists a series of forks and execs and
environment changes such that this will end up happening.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Paul Eggleton]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 838 bytes --]

On Friday 23 March 2012 02:16:35 Peter Seebach wrote:
> Still really weird to me that I can't reproduce this outside of hob.
> I am pretty sure there exists a series of forks and execs and
> environment changes such that this will end up happening.

I now have a fairly simple test case outside of hob. Put the attached file in 
meta/classes/ and then add the following to your local.conf:

INHERIT += "breakit"

Then, just run something that will actually execute a real task. If bzip2 has 
already been built you can trigger it just with this, which doesn't take very 
long:

bitbake -c package -f bzip2

This should give you a stream of "pseudo: You must set the PSEUDO_PREFIX 
environment variable to run pseudo." after the task summary.

Cheers,
Paul

-- 

Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

[-- Attachment #2: breakit.bbclass --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 411 bytes --]

breakit_break() {
        cat > ${TMPDIR}/test123 <<END
${@breakit_output(d)}
END
}

def breakit_output(d):
    return '\n'.join(get_layers_branch_rev(d))

python breakit_eventhandler() {
	import bb.event
	import bb.build

	if isinstance(e, bb.event.BuildCompleted):
		bb.note("possible breakage coming up...")
		bb.build.exec_func("breakit_break", e.data)
}

addhandler breakit_eventhandler

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:20:08 +0000
Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Friday 23 March 2012 02:16:35 Peter Seebach wrote:
> > Still really weird to me that I can't reproduce this outside of hob.
> > I am pretty sure there exists a series of forks and execs and
> > environment changes such that this will end up happening.
> 
> I now have a fairly simple test case outside of hob. Put the attached
> file in meta/classes/ and then add the following to your local.conf:
> 
> INHERIT += "breakit"

Confirmed, this produces the problem for me, reducing the reproduction
window from something over an hour to about 7 seconds.  THANK YOU!

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:20:08 +0000
Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Friday 23 March 2012 02:16:35 Peter Seebach wrote:
> > Still really weird to me that I can't reproduce this outside of hob.
> > I am pretty sure there exists a series of forks and execs and
> > environment changes such that this will end up happening.
> 
> I now have a fairly simple test case outside of hob. Put the attached
> file in meta/classes/ and then add the following to your local.conf:
> 
> INHERIT += "breakit"

Okay, some notes.

The magic seems to come from the interpolated Python output that itself
calls os.popen from inside the shell script.

A bit of poking about turns up the following:

1.  The environment setup and teardown in runqueue.py don't seem to be
atomic at all, such that if I annotate the stashing in envbackup with a
bb.note for each variable stashed, I sometimes see a fork() call in
pseudo BETWEEN two variables.  Which is to say, we can be forking WHILE
changing the environment.
2.  The func_exec_shell calls seem to be able to call the git_branch
stuff (which uses os.popen()) in a way that does not hit the runqueue
code AT ALL.  Meaning it operates with Whatever Environment Seems Handy.
3.  I am inclined to suggest that a first pass would be to distinguish
between "we need to set this, but we never need to unset
it" (PSEUDO_PREFIX) and "we need to set this and then revert
it" (PSEUDO_UNLOAD).
4.  We should have a handler for popen() anyway, but it will not in and
of itself fix the problem.

I am still getting the hang of finding my way around bitbake and
figuring out who's calling what.  I'd guess that just making sure
PSEUDO_PREFIX never gets unset would effectively mitigate the problem,
but I suspect that we'll still be vulnerable to Weird Race Conditions.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Richard Purdie]

On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 17:45 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:20:08 +0000
> Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Friday 23 March 2012 02:16:35 Peter Seebach wrote:
> > > Still really weird to me that I can't reproduce this outside of hob.
> > > I am pretty sure there exists a series of forks and execs and
> > > environment changes such that this will end up happening.
> > 
> > I now have a fairly simple test case outside of hob. Put the attached
> > file in meta/classes/ and then add the following to your local.conf:
> > 
> > INHERIT += "breakit"
> 
> Okay, some notes.
> 
> The magic seems to come from the interpolated Python output that itself
> calls os.popen from inside the shell script.
> 
> A bit of poking about turns up the following:
> 
> 1.  The environment setup and teardown in runqueue.py don't seem to be
> atomic at all, such that if I annotate the stashing in envbackup with a
> bb.note for each variable stashed, I sometimes see a fork() call in
> pseudo BETWEEN two variables.  Which is to say, we can be forking WHILE
> changing the environment.
> 2.  The func_exec_shell calls seem to be able to call the git_branch
> stuff (which uses os.popen()) in a way that does not hit the runqueue
> code AT ALL.  Meaning it operates with Whatever Environment Seems Handy.
> 3.  I am inclined to suggest that a first pass would be to distinguish
> between "we need to set this, but we never need to unset
> it" (PSEUDO_PREFIX) and "we need to set this and then revert
> it" (PSEUDO_UNLOAD).
> 4.  We should have a handler for popen() anyway, but it will not in and
> of itself fix the problem.
> 
> I am still getting the hang of finding my way around bitbake and
> figuring out who's calling what.  I'd guess that just making sure
> PSEUDO_PREFIX never gets unset would effectively mitigate the problem,
> but I suspect that we'll still be vulnerable to Weird Race Conditions.

Let me share my notes. I looked at Pauls instructions and thought, fair
enough and tried:

bitbake git-native -c install -f

which showed no error. Hmm. To summarise what I found:

bitbake git-native -c install -f    - no pseudo issue
bitbake bzip2 -c compile -f         - no pseudo issue
bitbake bzip2 -c install -f         - pseudo issue
bitbake bzip2 -c package -f         - pseudo issue

So there is a pattern, we have to execute a task where we enable pseudo.
Once we've done that we see a problem. Pseudo is left loaded but
disabled for -native tasks and compile but is active for install/package
of target recipes.

This implies that once we enable pseudo for a child, there is some
change in the parent which persists.

Let me talk a little about what should happen. The code in question is
in runqueue.py, the function fork_off_task().

Our starting position is pseudo is loaded but disabled as per the
variables in scripts/bitbake (effectively PSEUDO_DISABLED=1).

We then look at whether the child we need to create should run pseudo.
If it does, we look at FAKEROOTENV (set from meta/conf/bitbake.conf)
to: 

"PSEUDO_PREFIX=${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}${prefix_native}
PSEUDO_LOCALSTATEDIR=${PSEUDO_LOCALSTATEDIR} PSEUDO_PASSWD=
${PSEUDO_PASSWD} PSEUDO_NOSYMLINKEXP=1 PSEUDO_DISABLED=0"

so we poke those into the environment, then fork(), the child does its
thing under pseudo and the parent restores the environment to its
original values.

If the child does not need to run under pseudo, we process FAKEROOTNOENV
("PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1") and set this, fork the child where pseudo should
have unloaded and then reset the environment back in the parent.

So somehow the pseudo in the parent is changing state after we run any
pseudo task. If we then run a command using popen later in the parent
context, pseudo is complaining.

I'm not sure if this is a bug in the way we're using pseudo, the code
implmentation has an issue somewhere I'm not seeing or whether pseduo
shouldn't be changing state like this.

I did note I can make the error "disappear" with:

diff --git a/scripts/bitbake b/scripts/bitbake
index 45c8697..a5b1539 100755
--- a/scripts/bitbake
+++ b/scripts/bitbake
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 #!/bin/sh
 
 export BBFETCH2=True
-export BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE="PSEUDO_BUILD PSEUDO_DISABLED $BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE"
+export BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE="PSEUDO_BUILD PSEUDO_DISABLED PSEUDO_PREFIX $BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE"
 
 NO_BUILD_OPTS="--version -h --help -p --parse-only -s --show-versions -e --environment -g --graphviz"
 PASSTHROUGH_OPTS="-D -DD -DDD -DDDD -v"

since the envbackup is unsetting PSEUDO_PREFIX in the pseudo enabled
task case which seems to be the trigger.

What puzzles me is we get this value from  envbackup[key] =
os.environ.get("PSEUDO_PREFIX") so its already not in the environment.

So basically if we read "PSEUDO_PREFIX" from the environment we get
nothing. If we unset the value back to being "nothing", things break.

This would imply we have some other issue going on here somewhere...

Cheers,

Richard

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Richard Purdie]

On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 17:15 +0000, Richard Purdie wrote:
> What puzzles me is we get this value from  envbackup[key] =
> os.environ.get("PSEUDO_PREFIX") so its already not in the environment.
> 
> So basically if we read "PSEUDO_PREFIX" from the environment we get
> nothing. If we unset the value back to being "nothing", things break.
> 
> This would imply we have some other issue going on here somewhere...

I've discovered that if I add:

        os.environ["PSEUDO_PREFIX"]  = "/media/build1/poky/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr"
        os.environ["PSEUDO_LOCALSTATEDIR"]  = "/media/build1/poky/build/tmp/work/i586-poky-linux/bzip2-1.0.6-r5/pseudo/"
        del os.environ["PSEUDO_PREFIX"]
        del os.environ["PSEUDO_LOCALSTATEDIR"]

to the top of fork_off_task(), then "bitbake bzip2 -c compile -f" will
start to fail with the pseudo error like the install/package case.

One or the other of the above on their own doesn't do this. Funky.

Cheers,

Richard

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:41:43 +0000
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> One or the other of the above on their own doesn't do this. Funky.

That's very strange.  I wouldn't have expected LOCALSTATEDIR to have
any effect either way; it might change how pseudo runs, but it shouldn't
affect whether it's being enabled.

If we are starting with pseudo loaded, I'm pretty sure it's unsafe to
unset PSEUDO_PREFIX ever.  After a fork(), pseudo will still be in
memory, and if PSEUDO_PREFIX is unset, Bad Things Happen.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Richard Purdie]

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 11:44 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:41:43 +0000
> Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > One or the other of the above on their own doesn't do this. Funky.
> 
> That's very strange.  I wouldn't have expected LOCALSTATEDIR to have
> any effect either way; it might change how pseudo runs, but it shouldn't
> affect whether it's being enabled.
> 
> If we are starting with pseudo loaded, I'm pretty sure it's unsafe to
> unset PSEUDO_PREFIX ever.  After a fork(), pseudo will still be in
> memory, and if PSEUDO_PREFIX is unset, Bad Things Happen.

This is pretty much what we do at the moment, it gets unset after we
load. Pseudo is of course disabled at this point.

I guess we just got lucky to this point and avoided "Bad Things"?

Cheers,

Richard

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:47:29 +0100
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> This is pretty much what we do at the moment, it gets unset after we
> load. Pseudo is of course disabled at this point.
> 
> I guess we just got lucky to this point and avoided "Bad Things"?

I suspect so.  What's weird to me is that PSEUDO_PREFIX wasn't in the
environment before, either.  So I still don't quite get this.  I am
still missing something which will make this all make sense.

... at this point, I am leaning towards viewing this as a bug where it
is not enough to simply correct the behavior, I will not feel confident
in it until I have understood how it could have happened, but worked in
many other cases.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Richard Purdie]

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 12:18 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:47:29 +0100
> Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > This is pretty much what we do at the moment, it gets unset after we
> > load. Pseudo is of course disabled at this point.
> > 
> > I guess we just got lucky to this point and avoided "Bad Things"?
> 
> I suspect so.  What's weird to me is that PSEUDO_PREFIX wasn't in the
> environment before, either.  So I still don't quite get this.  I am
> still missing something which will make this all make sense.
> 
> ... at this point, I am leaning towards viewing this as a bug where it
> is not enough to simply correct the behavior, I will not feel confident
> in it until I have understood how it could have happened, but worked in
> many other cases.

This is why I'm not saying lets just set PSEUDO_PREFIX. Its bothering me
too.

> > What puzzles me is we get this value from  envbackup[key] =
> > os.environ.get("PSEUDO_PREFIX") so its already not in the 
> > environment.
> > 
> > So basically if we read "PSEUDO_PREFIX" from the environment we get
> > nothing. If we unset the value back to being "nothing", things 
> > break.
>
> Yes.  This is, of course, obviously impossible.
> 
Obviously :). Except the code does this and I've watched it happen. I'm
not claiming to understand it...

> Hmm.  Well, hmm.  When we start up, we should pick up PSEUDO_PREFIX
> from our environment, and during some of the initial client setup, we
> should be stashing that value in our stashed values table.  At this
> point, so far as I can tell, nothing should ever unset that stashed
> value.
>
> On fork(), we don't change anything until we're in the client side of
> the fork, but that setup should happen in the same address space, with
> the values still stashed.

When we poke new values into the environment, will it corrupt the
internal stash?
> 
> Oh, nevermind, I just realized:  We use antimagic as the
> implementation
> goo for PSEUDO_DISABLED.
>
> So a call to os.popen() from a program which has PSEUDO_DISABLED set
> is going to think it's in antimagic mode.
>
> And suddenly, the trick is revealed:
>
> os.popen() is bypassing all the runqueue stuff which is trying to
> ensure that the environment is in a valid state.  So if bitbake code
> calls os.popen(), it may behave weirdly, for the same reason that any
> other direct invocation of fork() or system() or whatnot would behave
> weirdly -- because bitbake is running with pseudo in a strange state.

I'd be very surprised if we don't make some other system() call
somewhere in bitbake's parent context.

If this were a trigger, it could go a long way to explaining some errors
people have reported though.
> 
> So I think the thing is:
>
> Because bitbake is running with PSEUDO_DISABLED, any child process
> that
> is not explicitly set to either enable or unload pseudo is going to be
> running under pseudo, with PSEUDO_DISABLED.  And that means we need to
> ensure that PSEUDO_PREFIX stays set, because we need that even when
> pseudo is disabled.  (It's used during some of the initial setup
> sanity checks.)

This is the answer I was expecting we'd come to. 

I'm still a little surprised we don't make any system() calls though. I
just tried putting a os.system("true") call into the "breakit" class and
it doesn't trigger the warnings. Could that be down to the lack of a
popen wrapper?

Cheers,

Richard

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:45:16 +0100
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> I'm still a little surprised we don't make any system() calls though.
> I just tried putting a os.system("true") call into the "breakit"
> class and it doesn't trigger the warnings. Could that be down to the
> lack of a popen wrapper?

I think that part could be, but this doesn't explain why adding the
popen() wrapper doesn't fix it.  Oh, wait.  Yes, it does.  I think I am
now happy with this, although I have a loose end or two.

So, here's what I've figured out.

We start bitbake with PSEUDO_PREFIX set.  This then gets stored in the
internal stash.  Thus, on any call we catch, we should be restoring it.
We then unset it, because it's not part of the whitelisted environment.

Now, what this means is that when we spawn child processes, they should
be getting the environment, but the parent bitbake is running with
PSEUDO_DISABLED.  Which, in turn, sets antimagic.  So most calls run
through their non-wrapped form.

The problem:  I wrote my popen() wrapper wrong.  See, I carefully
removed the check for pseudo_disabled from the top of it.  But!  That
code path is not actually the only way in which pseudo_disabled affects
behavior.  That's just an *OPTIMIZATION*.  The pseudo_disabled flag
also means that antimagic is set, and I copied that part of the wrapper
in unmodified:

        if (antimagic > 0) {
                /* call the real syscall */
                rc = (*real_popen)(command, mode);
        } else {
                /* exec*() use this to restore the sig mask */
                pseudo_saved_sigmask = saved;
                rc = wrap_popen(command, mode);
        }

And antimagic is 1, so I call real popen.  Which forks.  And even
though pseudo isn't in the LD_PRELOAD environment variable, it's still
in the process's address space, but PSEUDO_PREFIX isn't set, and for
some reason, the stashed value is missing.  Not sure I can explain that
part yet; maybe we do have a path where we wipe the stashed value.

But the underlying problem is that my popen() wrapper was never
actually doing the setupenv/dropenv, or just a setupenv.

And the other underlying problem is that calling os.popen() directly is
probably something we should discourage, because we really do want to
know, for each subprocess we plan to spawn, whether it is running in
the pseudo environment or not.  So if you call os.popen(), you get
"whatever state bitbake is in", which may not be at all what you wanted
or intended.

If I fix the popen() patch, it may actually start working again,
although I'm still not totally sure why the prefix is getting wiped out.

So... I think...

1.  We should probably whitelist PSEUDO_PREFIX because life is a heck
of a lot easier if we aren't trying to set it and unset it all the time.
2.  I need to fix my popen patch.
3.  Once I've fixed that, I can probably do a much better job of
articulating what's happening to pseudo_prefix that's causing us to end
up with a child process where both the internal stash and the
environment variable are unset.

The big thing I was missing was that PSEUDO_DISABLED implies that
everything will always have antimagic >= 1.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:45:16 +0100
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> I'm still a little surprised we don't make any system() calls though.
> I just tried putting a os.system("true") call into the "breakit"
> class and it doesn't trigger the warnings. Could that be down to the
> lack of a popen wrapper?

Conclusion:  Yes, it could.  Once I understood why the popen wrapper
wasn't working, it got better; using the popen wrapper fixes things for
the breakit class, and probably for hob also.

However, the popen() wrapper is not really restoring the environment
after it runs.  (In fact, I just looked at system(), and it does a
setupenv() but not a dropenv(), so it will, I think, be running
anything it runs with pseudo loaded but disabled, I think.)

I still think it might be wiser for us to move PSEUDO_PREFIX into the
list of things that are always set.  I'm not sure; if we don't, we have
a good chance of finding weird problems faster, I guess!

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:15:15 +0000
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> This implies that once we enable pseudo for a child, there is some
> change in the parent which persists.

Hmm.

Is the parent running with pseudo loaded?  If it were, then I would
expect this -- pseudo does some environment magic that can affect the
parent, and also cause it to stash values for later restoration.

Otherwise, I'm less sure, because the parent process should be able to
mess with its environment all it wants.  Pseudo has some hackery for
restoring missing values, to let things like "env -i ..." work.

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Richard Purdie]

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 02:43 -0500, Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:15:15 +0000
> Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > This implies that once we enable pseudo for a child, there is some
> > change in the parent which persists.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> Is the parent running with pseudo loaded?  If it were, then I would
> expect this -- pseudo does some environment magic that can affect the
> parent, and also cause it to stash values for later restoration.

BitBake always runs with pseudo loaded but disabled. When we fork a
child, we decide whether to enable it or not and setup the environment
to either bring pseudo to life, or unload it from memory entirely.

It sounds to me like our enable/disable code confuses the heck out of
pseudo in the parent environment, likely overwriting a stashed value
which it needs to be able to find itself again (prefix/localstate).

Obviously we can change the way we manipulate the environment although
that isn't entirely straightforward as we need to ensure the pseudo
paths don't leak into sstate package checksums for example.

Cheers,

Richard

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:15:15 +0000
Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> What puzzles me is we get this value from  envbackup[key] =
> os.environ.get("PSEUDO_PREFIX") so its already not in the environment.
> 
> So basically if we read "PSEUDO_PREFIX" from the environment we get
> nothing. If we unset the value back to being "nothing", things break.

Yes.  This is, of course, obviously impossible.

Hmm.  Well, hmm.  When we start up, we should pick up PSEUDO_PREFIX
from our environment, and during some of the initial client setup, we
should be stashing that value in our stashed values table.  At this
point, so far as I can tell, nothing should ever unset that stashed
value.

On fork(), we don't change anything until we're in the client side of
the fork, but that setup should happen in the same address space, with
the values still stashed.

I did find one other thing, though, which worries me.  I added a
popen() wrapper, and the thing is.  We're calling popen() with the
"antimagic" bit set (the one that suppresses all the wrappers).

Which would cause all sorts of problems, and I can't figure out how
it'd be happening.  So my new theory:

* There's something specific causing us to end up invoking popen()
  with the antimagic bit set.  This is obviously impossible.
* But that means that, even if we trap other syscalls made by popen(),
  we won't be doing wrappers or fixups.
* And that could expose problems to do with PSEUDO_PREFIX getting
  unset unexpectedly.

So I think adding it to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE will hide this, but it won't
explain how we're getting into a popen() call in antimagic mode.
(Antimagic is the internal thing pseudo uses while trying to do
client/server communications.  Pretty sure it never calls popen.)

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.

Re: pseudo interaction issue

[Peter Seebach]

Oh, nevermind, I just realized:  We use antimagic as the implementation
goo for PSEUDO_DISABLED.

So a call to os.popen() from a program which has PSEUDO_DISABLED set is
going to think it's in antimagic mode.

And suddenly, the trick is revealed:

os.popen() is bypassing all the runqueue stuff which is trying to
ensure that the environment is in a valid state.  So if bitbake code
calls os.popen(), it may behave weirdly, for the same reason that any
other direct invocation of fork() or system() or whatnot would behave
weirdly -- because bitbake is running with pseudo in a strange state.

So I think the thing is:

Because bitbake is running with PSEUDO_DISABLED, any child process that
is not explicitly set to either enable or unload pseudo is going to be
running under pseudo, with PSEUDO_DISABLED.  And that means we need to
ensure that PSEUDO_PREFIX stays set, because we need that even when
pseudo is disabled.  (It's used during some of the initial setup
sanity checks.)

-s
-- 
Listen, get this.  Nobody with a good compiler needs to be justified.