From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: push.default: current vs upstream
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:13:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120330071358.GB30656@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vfwcqq2dw.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 06:54:51PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>
> > But I would withhold a decision on "upstream" versus "current" until
> > those bugs are ironed out, because what people think of as "upstream"
> > (today's current behavior) may not be exactly what it ends up as.
> > ...
> > Anyway, I didn't exactly want to re-open the upstream versus current
> > debate at this point ...
>
> Actually I did want to ;-) An announcement "We would be switching but we
> don't know what to" does not make sense.
OK. Then I think we shouldn't switch to upstream, and I'm ready to
debate it. :) I already posted my arguments earlier in the thread[1].
What do you think?
I think we can deal with my first issue (some workflows will cause "git
push" to error out without doing anything) with targeted advice for each
situation. But I still worry about the "implied merge" concern I
raised, and I think the only way to fix that is to have a new mode that
is almost but not quite "upstream" (like the upstream-current hybrid I
mentioned).
Has somebody volunteered to make the necessary fixes to "push.default =
upstream" in the first place? At the very least we need the fixes you
mentioned in your mail[2] before it can become the default. So maybe
doing those is a good first step (of course we are in release freeze,
and it would be nice to settle this before v1.7.10 ships, so maybe there
is not time).
-Peff
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/194299
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/194295
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-28 19:47 [ANNOUNCE] Git 1.7.10-rc3 Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 9:52 ` Jeff King
2012-03-29 21:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 1:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 7:13 ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-03-30 20:25 ` push.default: current vs upstream Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:01 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:53 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 22:20 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-31 22:49 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-31 23:48 ` Seth Robertson
2012-04-01 2:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-01 5:58 ` Nathan Gray
2012-04-02 7:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 17:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 18:58 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 19:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 20:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 21:02 ` demerphq
2012-04-02 21:16 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-04 7:57 ` demerphq
2012-04-05 13:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-05 16:46 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 7:15 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 7:44 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 8:00 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-06 18:01 ` Jehan Bing
2012-04-07 7:49 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-07 7:51 ` Jeff King
2012-04-07 8:40 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 7:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 15:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 21:16 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 21:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 22:59 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-13 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-17 20:13 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-08 4:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-11 16:17 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 7:55 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 8:14 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:59 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 15:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 16:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 20:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 21:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 23:46 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 14:52 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 3:51 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 4:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 5:01 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 5:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:33 ` Jeff King
2012-04-22 16:24 ` Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2012-04-20 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:35 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Jeff King
2012-04-22 11:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 2:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 0/7 v3] " Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 19:00 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 19:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 21:01 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 17:10 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-01-31 17:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:57 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:04 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:08 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-01-31 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-01 1:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:57 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] fixup! " Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: suggested updates to push configuration documentation Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 10:32 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-23 11:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:49 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-25 1:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-25 11:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 19:28 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 2/3] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-26 5:44 ` [PATCH] t5541: warning message is given even with --quiet Junio C Hamano
2012-04-26 6:31 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 2:08 ` [RFC/PATCH] Give better 'pull' advice when pushing non-ff updates to current branch Christopher Tiwald
2012-04-06 11:38 ` push.default: current vs upstream Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 13:36 ` demerphq
2012-04-06 18:03 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 18:48 ` demerphq
2012-04-06 19:38 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-30 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 20:59 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 21:04 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 22:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 23:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-05 12:45 ` Jeff King
2012-04-08 12:52 ` Felipe Contreras
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