From: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: push.default: current vs upstream
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 09:40:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vpqty12h995.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vty15ltuo.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:25:03 -0700")
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> Obviously the
> former is much simpler to explain and understand, as people do not have to
> learn upstream tracking before doing their first "push".
Again, this is simple only for people who never run "git pull" without
argument.
For the others, they already have to learn about the "upstream"
semantics. And making argumentless "git pull" and "git push" purposely
asymetric to make it simple for the user sounds like an oxymoron to me.
The discussion seems to focuse on 'let's make "git push" easy to
explain', but I think the right thing to do is to make _Git_ easy to
explain. With "push.default = current", we'll have a hard time
explaining how "git pull" works.
--
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-28 19:47 [ANNOUNCE] Git 1.7.10-rc3 Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 9:52 ` Jeff King
2012-03-29 21:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 1:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 7:13 ` push.default: current vs upstream Jeff King
2012-03-30 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:01 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:53 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 22:20 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-31 22:49 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-31 23:48 ` Seth Robertson
2012-04-01 2:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-01 5:58 ` Nathan Gray
2012-04-02 7:40 ` Matthieu Moy [this message]
2012-04-02 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 17:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 18:58 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 19:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 20:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 21:02 ` demerphq
2012-04-02 21:16 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-04 7:57 ` demerphq
2012-04-05 13:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-05 16:46 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 7:15 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 7:44 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 8:00 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-06 18:01 ` Jehan Bing
2012-04-07 7:49 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-07 7:51 ` Jeff King
2012-04-07 8:40 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 7:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 15:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 21:16 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 21:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 22:59 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-13 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-17 20:13 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-08 4:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-11 16:17 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 7:55 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 8:14 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:59 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 15:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 16:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 20:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 21:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 23:46 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 14:52 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 3:51 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 4:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 5:01 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 5:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:33 ` Jeff King
2012-04-22 16:24 ` Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2012-04-20 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:35 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Jeff King
2012-04-22 11:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 2:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 0/7 v3] " Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 19:00 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 19:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 21:01 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 17:10 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-01-31 17:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:57 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:04 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:08 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-01-31 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-01 1:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:57 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] fixup! " Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: suggested updates to push configuration documentation Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 10:32 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-23 11:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:49 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-25 1:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-25 11:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 19:28 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 2/3] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-26 5:44 ` [PATCH] t5541: warning message is given even with --quiet Junio C Hamano
2012-04-26 6:31 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 2:08 ` [RFC/PATCH] Give better 'pull' advice when pushing non-ff updates to current branch Christopher Tiwald
2012-04-06 11:38 ` push.default: current vs upstream Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 13:36 ` demerphq
2012-04-06 18:03 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 18:48 ` demerphq
2012-04-06 19:38 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-30 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 20:59 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 21:04 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 22:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 23:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-05 12:45 ` Jeff King
2012-04-08 12:52 ` Felipe Contreras
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