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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>,
	mbroz@redhat.com, Calvin Walton <calvin.walton@kepstin.ca>,
	jeff@deserettechnology.com
Subject: Re: brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> ssd or nossd + crypt performance?
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:35:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201207222135.11159.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120722185848.GA10089@merlins.org>

Hi Marc,

Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012 schrieb Marc MERLIN:
> I'm still getting a bit more data before updating the btrfs wiki with
> my best recommendations for today.
> 
> First, everything I've read so far says that the ssd btrfs mount option
> makes btrfs slower in benchmarks.
> What gives?
> Anyone using it or know of a reason not to mount my ssd with nossd?
> 
> 
> Next, I got a new Samsumg 830 512GB SSD which is supposed to be very
> high performance.
> The raw device seems fast enough on a quick hdparm test:
> 
> 
> But once I encrypt it, it drops to 5 times slower than my 1TB spinning
> disk in the same laptop:
> gandalfthegreat:~# hdparm -tT /dev/mapper/ssdcrypt
> /dev/mapper/ssdcrypt:
>  Timing cached reads:   15412 MB in  2.00 seconds = 7715.37 MB/sec
>  Timing buffered disk reads:  70 MB in  3.06 seconds =  22.91 MB/sec
> <<<<
> 
> gandalfthegreat:~# hdparm -tT /dev/mapper/cryptroot (spinning disk)
> /dev/mapper/cryptroot:
>  Timing cached reads:   16222 MB in  2.00 seconds = 8121.03 MB/sec
>  Timing buffered disk reads: 308 MB in  3.01 seconds = 102.24 MB/sec
> <<<<

Have you looked whether certain kernel threads are eating CPU?

I would have a look at this.

Or use atop to have a complete system overview during the hdparm run. You 
may want to use its default 10 seconds delay.

Anyway, hdparm is only a very rough measurement. (Test time 2 / 3 seconds 
is really short.)

Did you repeat tests three or five times and looked at the deviation?

For what it is worth I can beat that with ecryptfs on top of Ext4 ontop of 
an Intel SSD 320 (SATA 300 based):

martin@merkaba:~> su - ms
Passwort: 
ms@merkaba:~> df -hT .
Dateisystem    Typ      Größe Benutzt Verf. Verw% Eingehängt auf
/home/.ms      ecryptfs  224G    211G   11G   96% /home/ms
ms@merkaba:~> dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=1000 conv=fsync
1000+0 Datensätze ein
1000+0 Datensätze aus
1048576000 Bytes (1,0 GB) kopiert, 20,1466 s, 52,0 MB/s
ms@merkaba:~> rm testfile 
ms@merkaba:~> sudo fstrim /home
[sudo] password for ms: 
ms@merkaba:~>

Thats way slower than a dd without encryption, but its way faster than 
your hdparm figures. The SSD was underutilized according to the harddisk 
LED of this ThinkPad T520 with Intel i5 Sandybridge 2.5 GHz dualcore. Did 
start atop to late to see whats going on.

(I did not yet test ecryptfs on top of BTRFS, but you didn´t test a 
filesystem with hdparm anyway.)

Thanks,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-22 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30  0:37 brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD. No corruption iff write cache off? Marc MERLIN
2012-02-01 17:56 ` Chris Mason
2012-02-02  3:23   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-02 12:42     ` Chris Mason
     [not found]       ` <20120202152722.GI12429@merlins.org>
2012-02-12 22:32         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-12 23:47           ` Milan Broz
2012-02-13  0:14             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-15 15:42               ` Calvin Walton
2012-02-15 16:55                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-15 16:59                   ` Hugo Mills
2012-02-22 10:28                     ` Justin Ossevoort
2012-02-22 11:07                       ` Hugo Mills
2012-02-16  6:33               ` Chris Samuel
2012-02-18 12:33               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-02-18 12:39               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-02-18 12:49                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-18 18:13               ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> Trim or no Trim Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 20:04                 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-07-18 20:37                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 21:34                   ` Clemens Eisserer
2012-07-18 21:48                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 21:49                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-18 22:04                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-19 10:40                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-22 18:58                     ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> ssd or nossd + crypt performance? Marc MERLIN
2012-07-22 19:35                       ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2012-07-22 19:43                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-22 20:44                         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-22 22:41                           ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> file access 5x slower than spinning disk Marc MERLIN
2012-07-23  6:42                             ` How can btrfs take 23sec to stat 23K files from an SSD? Marc MERLIN
2012-07-24  7:56                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-27  4:40                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-27 11:08                               ` Chris Mason
2012-07-27 18:42                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-18 16:07             ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD. No corruption iff write cache off? Marc MERLIN
2012-02-19  0:53               ` Clemens Eisserer
2012-07-25 15:45 du -s src is a lot slower on SSD than spinning disk in the same laptop Marc MERLIN
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1207252023080.4340@(none)>
2012-07-25 23:38   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-26  3:32   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-07-26  3:35     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-26  6:54     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  5:30       ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  6:01         ` How can btrfs take 23sec to stat 23K files from an SSD? Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  6:08           ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-08-01  6:21             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01 21:57               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02  5:07                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 11:18                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 17:39                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 20:20                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 20:44                         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 21:21                           ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 21:49                             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-03 18:45                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-16  7:45                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 11:25                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-01  6:36           ` Chris Samuel
2012-08-01  6:40             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  8:18         ` du -s src is a lot slower on SSD than spinning disk in the same laptop Spelic
2012-08-16  7:50         ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]           ` <502CC2A2.4010506@shiftmail.org>
2012-08-16 17:55             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-05 16:52               ` ext4 crash with 3.5.2 in ext4_ext_remove_space Marc MERLIN
2012-09-05 17:50                 ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-09-05 17:53                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-06  4:24                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-07 15:19                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-07 15:39                       ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-09-07 15:51                         ` Marc MERLIN

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