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From: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Lukáš Czerner" <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	"Milan Broz" <mbroz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: du -s src is a lot slower on SSD than spinning disk in the same laptop
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:35:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120726033535.GT3888@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120726033223.GA5884@thunk.org>

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:32:23PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:40:28PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote:
> > > First, I had he problem with btrfs (details below), and then I noticed that
> > > while ext4 is actually twice as fast as btrfs, it's still a lot slower at
> > > stat on my fast Samsung 830 512G SSD than my 1TB laptop hard drive (both
> > > drives being in the same thinkpad T530 with 3.4.4 kernel).
> > > 
> > > How can things be so slow? 12-13 seconds to scan 15K inodes on a freshly
> > > made filesystem (and 22 secs with btrfs, so at least ext4 wins). The same
> > > thing on my spinning drive takes fewer than 4 seconds, and SSD should be
> > > several times faster than that.
> > > SSD throughput was measured over 400MB/s on the raw device and 268MB/s
> > > through the filesystem:
> 
> Was this an identical file system image on HDD and SSD?
> 
> The obvious thing to do is to get a blktrace of du -sh w/ a cold cache
> for both the HDD and SSD.  Regardless of whether it's something we can
> address at the fs level, or in the block device layer, the blktrace
> should make it really clear what is going on.

I'm not very familiar with blktrace, but here is one run I did when I was
trying to debug why dd of my dmcrypted FS was running at 27MB/s instead of
270MB/s.
http://marc.merlins.org/tmp/blktrace.txt
(dd shows up as 'bash' for some reason).

If that format isn't good, can you tell me which blktrace command lines I
should use to get you the exact output you'd like?

Thanks,
Marc
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-25 15:45 du -s src is a lot slower on SSD than spinning disk in the same laptop Marc MERLIN
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1207252023080.4340@(none)>
2012-07-25 23:38   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-26  3:32   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-07-26  3:35     ` Marc MERLIN [this message]
2012-07-26  6:54     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  5:30       ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  6:01         ` How can btrfs take 23sec to stat 23K files from an SSD? Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  6:08           ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-08-01  6:21             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01 21:57               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02  5:07                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 11:18                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 17:39                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 20:20                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 20:44                         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 21:21                           ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-02 21:49                             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-03 18:45                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-16  7:45                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-02 11:25                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-08-01  6:36           ` Chris Samuel
2012-08-01  6:40             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-08-01  8:18         ` du -s src is a lot slower on SSD than spinning disk in the same laptop Spelic
2012-08-16  7:50         ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]           ` <502CC2A2.4010506@shiftmail.org>
2012-08-16 17:55             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-05 16:52               ` ext4 crash with 3.5.2 in ext4_ext_remove_space Marc MERLIN
2012-09-05 17:50                 ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-09-05 17:53                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-06  4:24                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-07 15:19                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-07 15:39                       ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-09-07 15:51                         ` Marc MERLIN
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-30  0:37 brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD. No corruption iff write cache off? Marc MERLIN
2012-02-01 17:56 ` Chris Mason
2012-02-02  3:23   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-02 12:42     ` Chris Mason
     [not found]       ` <20120202152722.GI12429@merlins.org>
2012-02-12 22:32         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-12 23:47           ` Milan Broz
2012-02-13  0:14             ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-15 15:42               ` Calvin Walton
2012-02-15 16:55                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-15 16:59                   ` Hugo Mills
2012-02-22 10:28                     ` Justin Ossevoort
2012-02-22 11:07                       ` Hugo Mills
2012-02-16  6:33               ` Chris Samuel
2012-02-18 12:33               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-02-18 12:39               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-02-18 12:49                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-18 18:13               ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> Trim or no Trim Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 20:04                 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-07-18 20:37                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 21:34                   ` Clemens Eisserer
2012-07-18 21:48                     ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-18 21:49                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-18 22:04                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-19 10:40                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-22 18:58                     ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> ssd or nossd + crypt performance? Marc MERLIN
2012-07-22 19:35                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-22 19:43                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-22 20:44                         ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-22 22:41                           ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD -> file access 5x slower than spinning disk Marc MERLIN
2012-07-23  6:42                             ` How can btrfs take 23sec to stat 23K files from an SSD? Marc MERLIN
2012-07-24  7:56                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-07-27  4:40                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-07-27 11:08                               ` Chris Mason
2012-07-27 18:42                                 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-02-18 16:07             ` brtfs on top of dmcrypt with SSD. No corruption iff write cache off? Marc MERLIN
2012-02-19  0:53               ` Clemens Eisserer

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