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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mst@redhat.com, penberg@kernel.org,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws, wency@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:33:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120724123301.GH26120@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <500E959D.70009@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:31:25PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On 07/24/2012 02:28 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:26:33PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >> On 07/24/2012 09:44 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32:39PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >>>> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
> >>>> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
> >>>> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.
> >>>>
> >>>> This short patch series introduces a new device named virtio-notifier which
> >>>> does two simple things:
> >>>>
> >>>>  1. Provide a simple interface for the guest to notify the host of critical
> >>> To get early OOPSes virtio will have to be compiled into the kernel. If
> >>> your are so keen on using virtio for this though, why not just use
> >>> dedicated virtio serial channel?
> >>
> >> Let's separate between having log for these events and receiving notifications about them.
> >>
> >> For the log part, I can already run a simple serial console to dump everything somewhere. I'm more concerned about having notifications about something critical happening when the guest is already up and running.
> >>
> > I am talking about notifications. Run your notification protocol over
> > dedicated virtio-serial channel. Logs goes to virtio-console as you've
> > said.
> 
> Ah, so just add another channel into virtio-serial to pass these notifications? Good idea - I'll look into it.
> 
Yes, that's what I mean. This solution still has the disadvantage of not
been able to catch early boot oopses without compiling the whole virtio
into a kernel image.

--
			Gleb.

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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Cc: wency@cn.fujitsu.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, penberg@kernel.org,
	avi@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:33:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120724123301.GH26120@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <500E959D.70009@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:31:25PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On 07/24/2012 02:28 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:26:33PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >> On 07/24/2012 09:44 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32:39PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >>>> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
> >>>> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
> >>>> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.
> >>>>
> >>>> This short patch series introduces a new device named virtio-notifier which
> >>>> does two simple things:
> >>>>
> >>>>  1. Provide a simple interface for the guest to notify the host of critical
> >>> To get early OOPSes virtio will have to be compiled into the kernel. If
> >>> your are so keen on using virtio for this though, why not just use
> >>> dedicated virtio serial channel?
> >>
> >> Let's separate between having log for these events and receiving notifications about them.
> >>
> >> For the log part, I can already run a simple serial console to dump everything somewhere. I'm more concerned about having notifications about something critical happening when the guest is already up and running.
> >>
> > I am talking about notifications. Run your notification protocol over
> > dedicated virtio-serial channel. Logs goes to virtio-console as you've
> > said.
> 
> Ah, so just add another channel into virtio-serial to pass these notifications? Good idea - I'll look into it.
> 
Yes, that's what I mean. This solution still has the disadvantage of not
been able to catch early boot oopses without compiling the whole virtio
into a kernel image.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-24 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 20:32 [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio: Introduce virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 2/2] kvm tools: support virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  4:55 ` [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  4:55   ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  4:55   ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  8:26   ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24  8:26     ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 12:30     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:30       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:46       ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 12:46         ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 13:01         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 13:01           ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-25  0:36           ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-25  0:36             ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-25  8:46             ` Amit Shah
2012-07-25  8:46               ` Amit Shah
2012-07-24 12:23   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:23     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  7:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24  7:44   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:26   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:28     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:28       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:31       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:31         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:33         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-07-24 12:33           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:26   ` Sasha Levin

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