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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, penberg@kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:25:44 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9yprc4v.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343075561-29316-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928@gmail.com>

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:32:39 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.

I clearly missed the discussion.  Is this actually useful?  In practice,
won't you want the log from the guest?  What makes a virtual guest
different from a physical guest?

Guest watchdog functionality might be useful, but that's simpler to
implement via a virtio watchdog device, and more effective to implement
via a host facility that actually pings guest functionality (rather than
the kernel).

Cheers,
Rusty.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, penberg@kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, avi@redhat.com,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:25:44 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9yprc4v.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343075561-29316-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928@gmail.com>

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:32:39 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.

I clearly missed the discussion.  Is this actually useful?  In practice,
won't you want the log from the guest?  What makes a virtual guest
different from a physical guest?

Guest watchdog functionality might be useful, but that's simpler to
implement via a virtio watchdog device, and more effective to implement
via a host facility that actually pings guest functionality (rather than
the kernel).

Cheers,
Rusty.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: mst@redhat.com, penberg@kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, avi@redhat.com,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:25:44 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9yprc4v.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343075561-29316-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928@gmail.com>

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:32:39 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.

I clearly missed the discussion.  Is this actually useful?  In practice,
won't you want the log from the guest?  What makes a virtual guest
different from a physical guest?

Guest watchdog functionality might be useful, but that's simpler to
implement via a virtio watchdog device, and more effective to implement
via a host facility that actually pings guest functionality (rather than
the kernel).

Cheers,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-24  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 20:32 [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio: Introduce virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 2/2] kvm tools: support virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  4:55 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-07-24  4:55   ` [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  4:55   ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  8:26   ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24  8:26     ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 12:30     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:30       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:46       ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 12:46         ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 13:01         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 13:01           ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-25  0:36           ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-25  0:36             ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-25  8:46             ` Amit Shah
2012-07-25  8:46               ` Amit Shah
2012-07-24 12:23   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:23     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  7:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24  7:44   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:26   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:28     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:28       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:31       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:31         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:33         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:33           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:26   ` Sasha Levin

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