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From: u3557@miso.sublimeip.com (Amnon Shiloh)
To: avagin@gmail.com (Andrey Wagin)
Cc: gorcunov@openvz.org (Cyrill Gorcunov),
	oleg@redhat.com (Oleg Nesterov),
	xemul@parallels.com (Pavel Emelyanov),
	rostedt@goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt),
	fweisbec@gmail.com (Frederic Weisbecker),
	mingo@redhat.com (Ingo Molnar),
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl (Peter Zijlstra),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (LKML)
Subject: Re: vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:55:01 +1100 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121126125502.0FDDD592064@miso.sublimeip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANaxB-yCSrUMQbjrZPMoHp0hN+uUuRDCW6yRazFYX1YR_di9dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Andrey,

So what do you do if a catched interrupt occured inside vdso code?

You can easily detect that the task is currently in vdso code,
then delay its dump, but how do you detect whether a sigreturn()
or even a series of sigreturn()s won't bring it back to the middle
of some old vdso code?

You could of course keep that old code and modify only the very
first instruction of each routine into a jump instruction, but then
the code to which the process returns may not be compatible with
the new kernel and/or hardware configuration.

You cannot even rely on a vdso enter/exit counter, because interrupt
code can use "longjmp()".

My idea was to introduce a kernel option saying "don't send me any
catched signals while the program-counter is in this range (eg. the
vdso page), but I was told that it is not feasible to implement it.

Regards,
Amnon.

> 2012/11/26 Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:12:38PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >> On 11/22, Amnon Shiloh wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Now however, that "vsyscall" was effectively replaced by vdso, it
> >> > creates a new problem for me and probably for anyone else who uses
> >> > some form of checkpoint/restore:
> >>
> >> Oh, sorry, I can't help here. I can only add Cyrill and Pavel, they
> >> seem to enjoy trying to solve the c/r problems.
> >
> > Hi Oleg, Amnon, sorry for delay on this message. First of all, I'm
> > not vDSO specialist but as to c/r aspect of it I've had in mind the
> > the following scenario: we dump vDSO area either complete euther simply
> > remember the functions addresses it provides, then on restore we replace
> > the functions prologue with jmp instruction which would point to the
> > vDSO entries provided us by a kernel. But again, I didn't spend much time
> > for vDSO yet.
> 
> I think this approach should work. Here is a bit more details:
> 1. A task will be not dumped in vdso code. If a task is in vdso code,
> we will try to catch it again.
> 2. Only addresses of vdso symbols will be dumped.
> 3. On restore we will compare addresses of symbols. If addresses are
> not changes, a new vdso will be mapped instead of old one. If they are
> changed, a new vdso will be mapped in a free space and the old vdso
> will be replaced on a proxy library, where all functions are replaced
> on jumps to suitable functions in the new vdso.
> 
> Looks simple and does not required to hack a kernel.
> 
> >
> >         Cyrill
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 18:29 [PATCH] arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 17:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 18:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 10:33       ` u3557
2012-11-20 15:48       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 15:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 18:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 23:16           ` u3557
2012-11-21 14:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-21 17:30               ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-22 16:12                 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-22 20:57                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-23  0:20                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:45                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 12:47                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:42                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23  9:14                   ` arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 16:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 17:05                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 14:14                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-24 13:45                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-25 22:55                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-25 23:48                           ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-12-02 19:30                             ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-02 23:54                               ` u3557
2012-12-04 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-04 22:44                                   ` u3557
2013-01-08 17:08                                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-09 17:52                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-10  6:54                                       ` u3557
2013-01-12 18:12                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-14  2:31                                           ` u3557
2013-01-14 16:01                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-18  1:39                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18  5:44                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Randy Dunlap
2013-02-18 15:21                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:33                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 19:49                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19  6:25                                                       ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20  8:39                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20  9:38                                                           ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 10:51                                                             ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 11:16                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  7:46                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:00                                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21  8:03                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:09                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 22:18                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Andrew Morton
2013-02-21 22:42                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-22  1:18                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-22 14:23                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Denys Vlasenko
2012-12-05  9:29                               ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-05 13:14                                 ` u3557
2012-11-26  9:44                   ` vdso && cr " Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 12:27                     ` Andrey Wagin
2012-11-26 12:55                       ` Amnon Shiloh [this message]
2012-11-26 14:18                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 14:26                           ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:41                             ` vdso && cr Cyrill Gorcunov

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