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From: u3557@miso.sublimeip.com (Amnon Shiloh)
To: rostedt@goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Cc: u3557@dialix.com.au, oleg@redhat.com (Oleg Nesterov),
	palves@redhat.com (Pedro Alves),
	dvlasenk@redhat.com (Denys Vlasenko),
	jan.kratochvil@redhat.com (Jan Kratochvil),
	gorcunov@openvz.org (Cyrill Gorcunov),
	xemul@parallels.com (Pavel Emelyanov),
	fweisbec@gmail.com (Frederic Weisbecker),
	mingo@redhat.com (Ingo Molnar),
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl (Peter Zijlstra),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: prctl(PR_SET_MM)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:25:31 +1100 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130219062531.4F317592076@miso.sublimeip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361216963.23152.168.camel@gandalf.local.home>

Steven Rostedt wrote:

> If only you, or a few people are using it (ie. distros don't see a
> need), then it will be up to you to make the changes.

I believe that this functionality is of a general nature and is needed
by many, not only by myself and by the CRIU group, but by all user-level
software packages, past present and future, that provide some form or
another of reconstructing a Linux process.

For example:
1) Checkpoint-restore
   - the ability to resume a computation after computer crashes.
2) Process-migration
   - the ability to have a running computation change computers.
     (for numerous reasons, including planned shutdown; overheating;
     load-balancing; increased memory demands; the original computer
     being required by higher-priority users, etc. etc.)
3) Process-duplication
   - the ability to have a running computation continue in parallel from
     a point in time on two or more computers, so that if one of them
     fails, at least one copy will still be running (in time-critical
     missions, a periodic checkpointing may not be sufficient).

To reconstruct Linux process(es), one must be able to restore all their
memory contents, states and registers to their original and consistent
values.    

Other than the code currently enclosed in "CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE",
nothing else in the kernel provides the ability to set those 11 fields:

     start_code, end_code, start_data, end_data, start_brk, brk,
     start_stack, arg_start, arg_end, env_start, env_end.

There are many possible ways to implement this functionality and if you
believe that it would be a good idea, I could instead send a simple,
independent kernel patch that sets those 11 fields.  It would be shorter
than the current and perhaps implemented as a new "ptrace" function,
but given that the CRIU group already wrote this code and that it is
already in the kernel, I am concerned that trying to duplicate it might
interfere with their work, so I first ask for the relevant code in
"kernel/sys.c" to no longer be enclosed by an #ifdef.  What do you think?

Best Regards,
Amnon.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-19  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 18:29 [PATCH] arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 17:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 18:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 10:33       ` u3557
2012-11-20 15:48       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 15:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 18:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 23:16           ` u3557
2012-11-21 14:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-21 17:30               ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-22 16:12                 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-22 20:57                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-23  0:20                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:45                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 12:47                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:42                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23  9:14                   ` arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 16:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 17:05                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 14:14                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-24 13:45                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-25 22:55                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-25 23:48                           ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-12-02 19:30                             ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-02 23:54                               ` u3557
2012-12-04 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-04 22:44                                   ` u3557
2013-01-08 17:08                                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-09 17:52                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-10  6:54                                       ` u3557
2013-01-12 18:12                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-14  2:31                                           ` u3557
2013-01-14 16:01                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-18  1:39                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18  5:44                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Randy Dunlap
2013-02-18 15:21                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:33                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 19:49                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19  6:25                                                       ` Amnon Shiloh [this message]
2013-02-20  8:39                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20  9:38                                                           ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 10:51                                                             ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 11:16                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  7:46                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:00                                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21  8:03                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:09                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 22:18                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Andrew Morton
2013-02-21 22:42                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-22  1:18                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-22 14:23                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Denys Vlasenko
2012-12-05  9:29                               ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-05 13:14                                 ` u3557
2012-11-26  9:44                   ` vdso && cr " Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 12:27                     ` Andrey Wagin
2012-11-26 12:55                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:18                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 14:26                           ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:41                             ` vdso && cr Cyrill Gorcunov
     [not found] <20130222142603.987c6e3c.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2013-02-24  6:24 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-24  6:28 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh

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