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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>
Cc: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:22:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130214222247.GE11362@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1302141946110.11016@utopia.booyaka.com>

* Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com> [130214 12:51]:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> 
> > I don't think so as hwmod should only touch the sysconfig space
> > when no driver has claimed it.
> 
> hwmod does need to touch the SYSCONFIG register during pm_runtime suspend 
> and resume operations, and during device enable and disable operations.  
> Here's the relevant code:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c;h=4653efb87a2721ea20a9fe06a30a6c204d6d2282;hb=HEAD#l2157
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c;h=4653efb87a2721ea20a9fe06a30a6c204d6d2282;hb=HEAD#l2195

But that's triggered by runtime PM from the device driver, right?

I think it's fine for hwmod to do that as requested by the device
driver via runtime PM since hwmod is the bus glue making the drivers arch
independent.

I think the only piece we're missing for that is for driver to run
something like pm_runtime_init() that initializes the address space
to hwmod. Or just bus specific ioremap like you're suggesting later
on.

Just to recap what we've discussed earlier, the reasons why we want
reset and idle functions should be in the driver specific header are:

1. There's often driver specific logic needed in addition to the
   syconfig tinkering in the reset/idle functions.

2. We need to be able to reset and idle some hardware even if the
   driver is not compiled in.
 
> Drivers shouldn't touch their IP block's SYSCONFIG registers.  They don't 
> have anything specifically to do with the underlying device IP block, but 
> with the SoC integration, even though they live in the device's 
> memory-mapped address range.  It's unfortunate that TI didn't allocate a 
> separate, small address space for these registers, translated by the bus, 
> similar to the PCI-E Enhanced Configuration Access Mechanism:
> 
> http://wiki.osdev.org/PCI_Express#Extended_Configuration_Space
> 
> ... but that's unfortunately the reality of the OMAP hardware.

Yes I think we all agree on accessing sysconfig in a standardized
way via runtime PM triggered by the driver.
 
> Regarding ioremap(), it seems reasonable for drivers to call ioremap(), as 
> long as the implementation of ioremap() can be overridden by the device's 
> bus.  PCI device drivers already do this -- albeit in a PCI-specific way 
> -- with pci_ioremap_bar():
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=pci_ioremap_bar
> 
> So instead of something bus-specific like that, a better way would be to 
> use something like:
> 
> va = dev->bus->ioremap( ... );
> va = dev->bus->iounmap( ... );
> 
> Any driver using such a mechanism would be intrinsically generic. 
> platform_bus could simply set its bus->ioremap to the existing ioremap() 
> function, while buses like a omap_hwmod_bus could use a function that 
> returned the address range that omap_hwmod_bus has already ioremap()ped.

Yeah makes sense to me.

Tony

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:22:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130214222247.GE11362@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1302141946110.11016@utopia.booyaka.com>

* Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com> [130214 12:51]:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> 
> > I don't think so as hwmod should only touch the sysconfig space
> > when no driver has claimed it.
> 
> hwmod does need to touch the SYSCONFIG register during pm_runtime suspend 
> and resume operations, and during device enable and disable operations.  
> Here's the relevant code:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c;h=4653efb87a2721ea20a9fe06a30a6c204d6d2282;hb=HEAD#l2157
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c;h=4653efb87a2721ea20a9fe06a30a6c204d6d2282;hb=HEAD#l2195

But that's triggered by runtime PM from the device driver, right?

I think it's fine for hwmod to do that as requested by the device
driver via runtime PM since hwmod is the bus glue making the drivers arch
independent.

I think the only piece we're missing for that is for driver to run
something like pm_runtime_init() that initializes the address space
to hwmod. Or just bus specific ioremap like you're suggesting later
on.

Just to recap what we've discussed earlier, the reasons why we want
reset and idle functions should be in the driver specific header are:

1. There's often driver specific logic needed in addition to the
   syconfig tinkering in the reset/idle functions.

2. We need to be able to reset and idle some hardware even if the
   driver is not compiled in.
 
> Drivers shouldn't touch their IP block's SYSCONFIG registers.  They don't 
> have anything specifically to do with the underlying device IP block, but 
> with the SoC integration, even though they live in the device's 
> memory-mapped address range.  It's unfortunate that TI didn't allocate a 
> separate, small address space for these registers, translated by the bus, 
> similar to the PCI-E Enhanced Configuration Access Mechanism:
> 
> http://wiki.osdev.org/PCI_Express#Extended_Configuration_Space
> 
> ... but that's unfortunately the reality of the OMAP hardware.

Yes I think we all agree on accessing sysconfig in a standardized
way via runtime PM triggered by the driver.
 
> Regarding ioremap(), it seems reasonable for drivers to call ioremap(), as 
> long as the implementation of ioremap() can be overridden by the device's 
> bus.  PCI device drivers already do this -- albeit in a PCI-specific way 
> -- with pci_ioremap_bar():
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=pci_ioremap_bar
> 
> So instead of something bus-specific like that, a better way would be to 
> use something like:
> 
> va = dev->bus->ioremap( ... );
> va = dev->bus->iounmap( ... );
> 
> Any driver using such a mechanism would be intrinsically generic. 
> platform_bus could simply set its bus->ioremap to the existing ioremap() 
> function, while buses like a omap_hwmod_bus could use a function that 
> returned the address range that omap_hwmod_bus has already ioremap()ped.

Yeah makes sense to me.

Tony

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-14 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-14 11:15 [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 1/3] arm: omap: use generic implementation if !od Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 11:15 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 11:15 ` [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 17:12   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 17:12     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 17:56     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 17:56       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 18:12       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 18:12         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 19:27         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 19:27           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 19:39           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 19:39             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 20:47             ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 20:47               ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 21:40               ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 21:40                 ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 22:47                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-14 22:47                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-15  6:46                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  6:46                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  7:29                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15  7:29                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-19 15:30                   ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-19 15:30                     ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-19 15:45                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-19 15:45                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-19 16:30                       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 16:30                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 18:22                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-19 18:22                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-19 19:31                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 19:31                             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 19:43                             ` hwmod data duplication (was: Re: [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency) Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 19:43                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 22:09                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 22:09                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 22:22                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 22:22                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 22:31                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 22:31                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 22:51                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 22:51                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15 10:26                 ` [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-15 10:26                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-14 21:56               ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 21:56                 ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-14 22:22               ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2013-02-14 22:22                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-15  6:53                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  6:53                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  7:27                   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-15  7:27                     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-19 15:27                 ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-19 15:27                   ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-19 16:38                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 16:38                     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 16:57                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 16:57                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 17:43                       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 17:43                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-19 18:34                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 18:34                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 19:16                     ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-19 19:16                       ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-19 19:32                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 19:32                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 19:50                         ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-19 19:50                           ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-19 20:10                           ` OMAP reset requirements (was: Re: [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency) ^[:x Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 20:10                             ` OMAP reset requirements (was: Re: [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency)^[:x Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 20:25                             ` OMAP reset requirements Kevin Hilman
2013-02-19 20:25                               ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-20  6:26                       ` [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-20  6:26                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15  6:44               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  6:44                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15  7:27                 ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-15  7:27                   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-20 17:38                 ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-20 17:38                   ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-20 19:16                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-20 19:16                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-20 20:03                     ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-20 20:03                       ` Paul Walmsley
2013-02-20 20:37                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-20 20:37                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 10:16                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-02-21 10:16                       ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-02-21 12:09                       ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-02-21 12:09                         ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-02-15 10:16               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-15 10:16                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-15 13:26                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15 13:26                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15 13:27                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-15 13:27                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-15 13:31                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15 13:31                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15 16:30                       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-15 16:30                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-15 16:42                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15 16:42                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  6:01                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  6:01                             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  8:55                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  8:55                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  9:17                               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  9:17                                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  9:22                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  9:22                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  9:31                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  9:31                                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-18 15:27                               ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-18 15:27                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-16  5:31                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  5:31                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  5:36                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-16  5:36                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-16  5:48                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  5:48                             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-18  8:08                             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-18  8:08                               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-02-18  8:28                               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-18  8:28                                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-15 15:40   ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-15 15:40     ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-15 16:03     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15 16:03       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-16  4:59     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-16  4:59       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-18 14:52       ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-18 14:52         ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-14 11:15 ` [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 3/3] arm: boot: dts: omap: remove ti_hwmods from UART ports Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 11:20 ` [RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 1/3] arm: omap: use generic implementation if !od Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-14 11:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-14 17:57   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-14 17:57     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15 15:28 ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-15 15:28   ` Kevin Hilman
2013-02-15 16:04   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-15 16:04     ` Felipe Balbi

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