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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch v3 -mm 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:34:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130517073413.GE25158@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130516231238.GA15025@mtj.dyndns.org>

On Thu 16-05-13 16:12:38, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:46:12AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Soft reclaim has been done only for the global reclaim (both background
> > and direct). Since "memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone
> > shrinking code" there is no reason for this limitation anymore as the
> > soft limit reclaim doesn't use any special code paths and it is a
> > part of the zone shrinking code which is used by both global and
> > targeted reclaims.
> ...
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> 
>  Reviewed-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>

Thanks

> 
> Some nitpicks follow.
> 
> >  /*
> > - * A group is eligible for the soft limit reclaim if it is
> > - * 	a) is over its soft limit
> > + * A group is eligible for the soft limit reclaim under the given root
> > + * hierarchy if
> > + * 	a) it is over its soft limit
> >   * 	b) any parent up the hierarchy is over its soft limit
> 
> This was added before but in general I think the use of parent for
> ancestor is a bit confusing.  Not a big deal but no reason to continue
> it.

$ git grep ancestor mm/memcontrol.c | wc -l
4
$ git grep
parent mm/memcontrol.c | wc -l
80

Yeah, we are used to use parent much more. Maybe it is worth a clean up
on its own but I will stick with the majority in this patch

> >  	/*
> > -	 * If any parent up the hierarchy is over its soft limit then we
> > -	 * have to obey and reclaim from this group as well.
> > +	 * If any parent up to the root in the hierarchy is over its soft limit
> > +	 * then we have to obey and reclaim from this group as well.
> 
> Prolly using terms ancestors and subtree would make the explanation
> clearer?

As I said earlier we should be explicit about hierarchy as
ancestor/parent (what ever we call it) might or might not be part of the
hierarchy. Yeah, we have that use_hierarchy thingy which we love so
much.

> >  static bool mem_cgroup_should_soft_reclaim(struct scan_control *sc)
> >  {
> > -	return global_reclaim(sc);
> > +	return true;
> 
> Kinda silly after this change, maybe just modify shrink_zone() like
> the following?
> 
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MEMCG)) {
> 		__shrink_zone(zone, sc, true);
> 		if (sc->nr_scanned == nr_scanned)
> 			__shrink_zone(zone, sc, false);
> 	} else {
> 		__shrink_zone(zone, sc, false);
>         }

I plan to build on top of this where mem_cgroup_should_soft_reclaim
would do more than just return true. So I will keep it this way if you
do not mind.

> > @@ -1974,7 +1974,7 @@ __shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc, bool soft_reclaim)
> >  			struct lruvec *lruvec;
> >  
> >  			if (soft_reclaim &&
> > -					!mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg)) {
> > +					!mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg, root)) {
> 
> Weird indentation which breaks line and goes over 80 col, why not do
> the following?
> 
> 		if (soft_reclaim &&
> 		    !mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg, root)) {
> 			memcg = mem_cgroup_iter(root, memcg, &reclaim);
> 			continue;
> 		}

Hmm, I rely on vim doing the_right_thing usually. I definitely do not
mind to change the formatting. I have fixed this in the first patch
where the code has been introduced and refreshed this patch on top of
that.

I will repost the whole series with reviewed-bys and other acks later

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch v3 -mm 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:34:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130517073413.GE25158@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130516231238.GA15025@mtj.dyndns.org>

On Thu 16-05-13 16:12:38, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:46:12AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Soft reclaim has been done only for the global reclaim (both background
> > and direct). Since "memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone
> > shrinking code" there is no reason for this limitation anymore as the
> > soft limit reclaim doesn't use any special code paths and it is a
> > part of the zone shrinking code which is used by both global and
> > targeted reclaims.
> ...
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> 
>  Reviewed-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>

Thanks

> 
> Some nitpicks follow.
> 
> >  /*
> > - * A group is eligible for the soft limit reclaim if it is
> > - * 	a) is over its soft limit
> > + * A group is eligible for the soft limit reclaim under the given root
> > + * hierarchy if
> > + * 	a) it is over its soft limit
> >   * 	b) any parent up the hierarchy is over its soft limit
> 
> This was added before but in general I think the use of parent for
> ancestor is a bit confusing.  Not a big deal but no reason to continue
> it.

$ git grep ancestor mm/memcontrol.c | wc -l
4
$ git grep
parent mm/memcontrol.c | wc -l
80

Yeah, we are used to use parent much more. Maybe it is worth a clean up
on its own but I will stick with the majority in this patch

> >  	/*
> > -	 * If any parent up the hierarchy is over its soft limit then we
> > -	 * have to obey and reclaim from this group as well.
> > +	 * If any parent up to the root in the hierarchy is over its soft limit
> > +	 * then we have to obey and reclaim from this group as well.
> 
> Prolly using terms ancestors and subtree would make the explanation
> clearer?

As I said earlier we should be explicit about hierarchy as
ancestor/parent (what ever we call it) might or might not be part of the
hierarchy. Yeah, we have that use_hierarchy thingy which we love so
much.

> >  static bool mem_cgroup_should_soft_reclaim(struct scan_control *sc)
> >  {
> > -	return global_reclaim(sc);
> > +	return true;
> 
> Kinda silly after this change, maybe just modify shrink_zone() like
> the following?
> 
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MEMCG)) {
> 		__shrink_zone(zone, sc, true);
> 		if (sc->nr_scanned == nr_scanned)
> 			__shrink_zone(zone, sc, false);
> 	} else {
> 		__shrink_zone(zone, sc, false);
>         }

I plan to build on top of this where mem_cgroup_should_soft_reclaim
would do more than just return true. So I will keep it this way if you
do not mind.

> > @@ -1974,7 +1974,7 @@ __shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc, bool soft_reclaim)
> >  			struct lruvec *lruvec;
> >  
> >  			if (soft_reclaim &&
> > -					!mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg)) {
> > +					!mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg, root)) {
> 
> Weird indentation which breaks line and goes over 80 col, why not do
> the following?
> 
> 		if (soft_reclaim &&
> 		    !mem_cgroup_soft_reclaim_eligible(memcg, root)) {
> 			memcg = mem_cgroup_iter(root, memcg, &reclaim);
> 			continue;
> 		}

Hmm, I rely on vim doing the_right_thing usually. I definitely do not
mind to change the formatting. I have fixed this in the first patch
where the code has been introduced and refreshed this patch on top of
that.

I will repost the whole series with reviewed-bys and other acks later

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-17  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-13  7:46 [patch v3 0/3 -mm] Soft limit rework Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-15  8:34   ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-15  8:34     ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 22:12   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:12     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:12     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:15     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:15       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17  7:16       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:16         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:16         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:12     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:12       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17 16:02   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 16:02     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 16:57     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 16:57       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 17:27       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 17:27         ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 17:45         ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 17:45           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 17:45           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-20 14:44     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-20 14:44       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-20 14:44       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-21  6:53       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-21  6:53         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13       ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: track children in soft limit excess to improve soft limit Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13       ` [PATCH 2/3] memcg, vmscan: Do not attempt soft limit reclaim if it would not scan anything Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13       ` [PATCH 3/3] memcg: Track all children over limit in the root Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:20       ` [PATCH] memcg: enhance memcg iterator to support predicates Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:20         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:20         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 13:05       ` [patch v3 -mm 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 13:05         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 13:05         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 15:57         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 15:57           ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 20:01           ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-29 20:01             ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30  8:45             ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-30  8:45               ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 14:54       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 14:54         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-30  8:36         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-30  8:36           ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 2/3] memcg: Get rid of soft-limit tree infrastructure Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-15  8:38   ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-15  8:38     ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 22:16   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:16     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-13  7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13  7:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-15  8:42   ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-15  8:42     ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17  7:50     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:50       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17  7:50       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-16 23:12   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 23:12     ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17  7:34     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-05-17  7:34       ` Michal Hocko

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